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Buzzlightyear 12-05-2019 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 2934118)
I think you may need to re read the article.

I did exactly what he did.

Buzzlightyear 12-05-2019 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by Weekendwarrior2 (Post 2934137)
Won’t be that case coming from a regional lol

That was my case from envoy. 16 year pay scale. LCA, lots of OT and double time.

Dunkin 12-05-2019 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by Buzzlightyear (Post 2933921)
$100k pay cut. All depends on how much you were making. Caught up by year three and then some.

Ouch! $60k pay cut for me

seafeye 12-05-2019 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 2860205)
Can someone explain the breakdown of pay year 1 throughout training and then on reserve?

How much did you make on a month-to-month basis and how much did you gross year 1? Year 2? Is it possible to credit 100 hours /month year 1 and 2 with the soft pay at American?

If you need 100 hours a month to survive then you probably need to do some sort of financial changes. Sell a property or two. Sell the cars. Get rid of car payments etc...
the sooner you leave the regional you’ll be better off. American Airlines has the same low quality of life regionals have but with double the pay.
My .02 is to budget your expenses on 74 hours.
You’ll be 1000 times happier. Your family will be too.
You need seniority to reap the benefits of soft time.
This job isn’t healthy. The less time you spend here the longer you’ll live.

Herc130AV8R 12-05-2019 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by seafeye (Post 2934169)
American Airlines has the same low quality of life regionals have

Really? How so? I'm genuinely curious as I make the transition from mil life. I don't know what regional life is like either but all I read is that AA would be better than that.

DCDriver 12-05-2019 09:37 AM

It IS better. Better pay, more time off, and better hotels. Some of us flows have a tendency to say it’s the same because there is a similar management philosophy and if you are commuting, it REALLY feels like the same job for more money

thrust 12-05-2019 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by seafeye (Post 2934169)
American Airlines has the same low quality of life regionals have but with double the pay.

My QoL at AA is infinitely better than AD USAF, and I had a really good AD career.

I guess I should have gone to the regionals instead of the AF, since the QoL is supposedly on par with what I have now.

:rolleyes:

PRS Guitars 12-05-2019 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by Herc130AV8R (Post 2934225)
Really? How so? I'm genuinely curious as I make the transition from mil life. I don't know what regional life is like either but all I read is that AA would be better than that.

Your QOL will be vastly superior to AD USAF. The job is easier, pays more, you get paid based on how hard you work,or don’t work, far less stressful at work, very laid back. I’m happier driving to the airport to commute to a four day than any Monday drive to work in my AD career. The first year kinda sucks and you need to prepare your wife for the transition to airline life. It is an adjustment, embrace it, and you’ll do fine...or feel sorry for yourself, and you’re not going to be happy.

Feel free to PM me for a chat.

OVBIII 12-05-2019 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by PRS Guitars (Post 2934348)
Your QOL will be vastly superior to AD USAF. The job is easier, pays more, you get paid based on how hard you work,or don’t work, far less stressful at work, very laid back. I’m happier driving to the airport to commute to a four day than any Monday drive to work in my AD career. The first year kinda sucks and you need to prepare your wife for the transition to airline life. It is an adjustment, embrace it, and you’ll do fine...or feel sorry for yourself, and you’re not going to be happy.

Feel free to PM me for a chat.

Well said. Well said.

chrisreedrules 12-05-2019 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 2934120)
I’m interested because what you do doesn’t jive with my investment strategy. I’m not sure if that means you move investments to bonds (lock-in capital gain taxes) or bury it in a coffee can. Honestly interested but NBD.

Personally I’m pretty much pulled out of the market at the moment. But I have been for some time. I’ve missed some of the highs of the recent years but I’ve also done better in real estate than I would have in the market so I can’t complain. As of now my short term plan is to hoard cash in preparation for the next downturn and buy more real estate at cheap / non-inflated prices.


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