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chrisreedrules 12-05-2019 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by seafeye (Post 2934169)
If you need 100 hours a month to survive then you probably need to do some sort of financial changes. Sell a property or two. Sell the cars. Get rid of car payments etc...
the sooner you leave the regional you’ll be better off. American Airlines has the same low quality of life regionals have but with double the pay.
My .02 is to budget your expenses on 74 hours.
You’ll be 1000 times happier. Your family will be too.
You need seniority to reap the benefits of soft time.
This job isn’t healthy. The less time you spend here the longer you’ll live.

Well the first year will likely be about a $45-$50K pay cut. We can survive it but if I can mitigate the financial hardship in any way I will.

My income is already about the same as most group 2 mainline Captains minus the 401K contributions. I have a lot of obligations and responsibilities so I work hard to make sure my families needs are met. But I would also like to retire somewhere between 55-60.

ACEssXfer 12-05-2019 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 2934418)

My income is already about the same as most group 2 mainline Captains minus the 401K contributions.

Dang bro.....

:D

Ready2board 12-05-2019 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by Saber72 (Post 2934422)
My biggest complaint about AA is flying with guys like this ^

Totally agreed.

stevieg241 12-05-2019 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by OVBIII (Post 2934025)
So during Indoc, you’ll be picking airframes and training slots. The end date of the training slot you pick will be the date of pay. So year one pay ends on that expect training completion date 12 calendar months later. As far as training pay I believe (I don’t have the contract in front of me) you get the average line value each month until the first full bidding month after IOE completion.
Sorry if this is poorly worded, my brain is running too many things.

So based on my Class Date of Dec 20, when can I expect to see my year 2 pay...Jan 15?

wiz5422 12-05-2019 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by stevieg241 (Post 2934464)
So based on my Class Date of Dec 20, when can I expect to see my year 2 pay...Jan 15?

More like end of February or early March. More likely March since you are running into the holidays

LucasM 12-05-2019 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 2934418)
My income is already about the same as most group 2 mainline Captains minus the 401K contributions.

Um if you’re referring to straight up airline pay and no other outside sources, that’s inaccurate. Regional pay isn’t that good my friend. Even if you were LCA and worked overtime and flew the thxgiving/xmas premium period, as a topped out regional Captain you’d barely scrape $175k. A mainline reserve Yr5 G2 Captain makes <$250k just to show up according to APC

stevieg241 12-05-2019 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 2934473)
More like end of February or early March. More likely March since you are running into the holidays

Just wanted to clarify, my hire date is Oct 30...you think it’ll still be that late?

HiFlyer992 12-05-2019 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by stevieg241 (Post 2934487)
Just wanted to clarify, my hire date is Oct 30...you think it’ll still be that late?

Not sure if you mean your hire date or indoc class start date is Oct 30? Hire/CJO date means nothing. Take your indoc class start date and add two months...that will be close to your pay date.

stevieg241 12-05-2019 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by HiFlyer992 (Post 2934569)
Not sure if you mean your hire date or indoc class start date is Oct 30? Hire/CJO date means nothing. Take your indoc class start date and add two months...that will be close to your pay date.

Indoc started Oct 30. Finished training Dec 20 (Sim Checkride). I understand it’s a couple months later, I just figured there’d be something more concrete than close enough. Thanks!

ACEssXfer 12-05-2019 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by stevieg241 (Post 2934579)
Indoc started Oct 30. Finished training Dec 20 (Sim Checkride). I understand it’s a couple months later, I just figured there’d be something more concrete than close enough. Thanks!

During indoc you bid on acft/base. Each choice had an attached estimated end of training date.

Whatever the estimated date was is when 2nd year pay will be effective.


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