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Old 01-26-2020, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by CAebaci View Post
Nice to see some positivity on the American forum for once.
He is still in the honeymoon phase and reality hasn’t set in yet.
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Old 01-27-2020, 06:25 AM
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He is still in the honeymoon phase and reality hasn’t set in yet.
I don’t think that is it. He posts the most over the top sunshine posts in nearly every single Envoy thread... most of which is either un realistic, some of which is straight up inaccurate.
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Old 01-27-2020, 07:15 AM
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seniority is everything in this job

retirements are the gold standard because they wont change. We have lots and lots and lots of retirements. There, did all the research for you
He's got a point. A SWOT analysis from the perspective of an investor is quite different than from the perspective of a potential pilot employee. Key takeaways...

1. Massive seniority opportunity
2. Too big to fail

Relative to those two, the rest is mostly background noise.

The only other details which (might) really matter long-term for a pilot are hubs/domiciles.
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Old 01-27-2020, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by highfarfast View Post
I don’t think that is it. He posts the most over the top sunshine posts in nearly every single Envoy thread... most of which is either un realistic, some of which is straight up inaccurate.
Agreed. My local used car salesman is more credible than this guy.
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Old 01-27-2020, 11:28 AM
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Here's some pros and cons:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7M-wdbTF_c
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Old 01-27-2020, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 206321 View Post
great video and message. Mr. Parker and Mr. Isom are at a crossroads, and a decision must be made. Abandon the philosophy and practice of degrading your labor and product, or continue down the path of financial ruin. Unfortunately, if history dictates, we know what the decision will be. New leadership is a must at AA now!
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Old 01-27-2020, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
2. Too big to fail
I’ve never considered this point before when looking at AA’s debt (from a pilot perspective, not an investor) and I think that’s a pretty interesting point.

I recall bailouts from the U.S. government to the auto and banking industries when 2008 hit the fan. I could see something similar if AA went under in a future recession/depression.
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Old 01-27-2020, 03:45 PM
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AA is not too big to fail. Probably the opposite. It’s assets could easily be sold off and operated by other airlines. Just like the TWA/Pan Am/Eastern assets were. Change the paint jobs, airplane interiors and signs at the airport, no change in service. Especially with ULCC’s becoming major players nationally.
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Old 01-27-2020, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Varsity View Post
AA is not too big to fail. Probably the opposite. It’s assets could easily be sold off and operated by other airlines. Just like the TWA/Pan Am/Eastern assets were. Change the paint jobs, airplane interiors and signs at the airport, no change in service. Especially with ULCC’s becoming major players nationally.
It’s more about systemic risk, job losses, assuring confidence, political gain and brokering deals than the connotation of “too big to fail”.
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Old 01-27-2020, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Varsity View Post
AA is not too big to fail. Probably the opposite. It’s assets could easily be sold off and operated by other airlines. Just like the TWA/Pan Am/Eastern assets were. Change the paint jobs, airplane interiors and signs at the airport, no change in service. Especially with ULCC’s becoming major players nationally.
I'm sorry but rickair is correct. American Airlines isn't going to fail. Don't know where you came up with this nonsense.
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