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Old 04-05-2020, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by texaspilot76 View Post
Anyone who is 62-63 would be foolish not to take the early retirement. They will get what amounts to a pension for 3 years and could go and do something else and make way more money total that what they would by staying. It would be a no brainer for me.
...because there will be so much hiring going on the next three years, with respect to them doing something else, I don’t think so.

Not to mention there will be huge numbers of younger guys on the streets.

Two out of my three tenants have not paid rent, the economy is going to suck for a while.
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Old 04-05-2020, 01:57 PM
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The difference between 76 hours of G2 pay and 50 hours of G4 pay is just shy of $50K/year.
That means anyone in that situation who doesn’t take the VPLOA will essentially be working for the next several years for “just shy of $50k/year.” That is absurd. The difference between not working at all and working full time is less than 50k, and people are not taking the VPLOA??

I personally am glad they are not offering them at other major airlines as I think they are too expensive and I’d rather see the money spread around the pilot group, but know that there are thousands of pilots at United and Delta that are envious of your VPLOA package.
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Old 04-05-2020, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by A330FoodCritic View Post
...because there will be so much hiring going on the next three years, with respect to them doing something else, I don’t think so.

Not to mention there will be huge numbers of younger guys on the streets.

Two out of my three tenants have not paid rent, the economy is going to suck for a while.
This will recover quickly by end of summer. There will be opportunities. Besides, there are many other opportunities other than just a mainline pilot. Cargo, corporate, teaching, or any other type of business they may have a skill for. So again, anyone 62 should take it without hesitation.
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Old 04-05-2020, 02:12 PM
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55 and up ... I’m outa here
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Old 04-05-2020, 03:39 PM
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lots of idiots in the this company
what makes you say that?
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Old 04-05-2020, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Route66 View Post
what makes you say that?
Exhibit A:

the guy that wants everyone to take a pay cut to get his early leave up to 70 hours.
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Old 04-05-2020, 04:15 PM
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Exhibit A:

the guy that wants everyone to take a pay cut to get his early leave up to 70 hours.
Can't believe that dude. Then again, sure I cam.
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Old 04-05-2020, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by texaspilot76 View Post
This will recover quickly by end of summer. There will be opportunities.
While I have been bearish on AA for a while, I’m generally a glass half full type of guy, and I wouldn’t go that far. This might or even probably will recover quickly, but I wouldn’t speak in definitive terms, and certainly wouldn’t make any financial plans on that basis.
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Old 04-05-2020, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by nimslow View Post
The difference between 76 hours of G2 pay and 50 hours of G4 pay is just shy of $50K/year. The junior G4 captain is likely to be a senior G2 captain, so they won’t be sitting reserve, unless it’s by choice, and will make more than 76 hours.

i really doubt many will take this round of VPLOA’s
so you would basically work your ass off (gr2 is much more of a grind than group 4) for 60k/year. The first $240,000 in earnings would be working for free.
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Old 04-05-2020, 06:36 PM
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Let me put it in this perspective for the VPLOA:

What company will pay you roughly $180,000 a year for 3 years, plus 16% of that into your retirement, full medical/ dental, and all other benefits to sit at home and not work?

Who in this world wouldn’t love that and not think twice about jumping all over it?
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