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Al Czervik 05-26-2020 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by AirBear (Post 3064644)
At NetJets there are pilots pushing 80, although I think they're all out on medical. Owners have complained and NJA has looked for a way to ease those guys out but can't get around age discrimination laws. That's why they tried to get it snuck into legislation a few years ago. Law was written so it'd only apply to NetJets. Never did get included in the final bill thou.

I went out on medical at 60 and I am fine with staying out, I have LOM coverage thru age 68.

Why couldn’t NJ say “airlines have age 65, so do we.”

Downtime 05-26-2020 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 3064704)
Why couldn’t NJ say “airlines have age 65, so do we.”

Age discrimination laws.

texaspilot76 05-27-2020 05:54 AM

I also wonder this:

If a current 330/ 767 Pilot takes VPLOA, will he get the 50 hours at group III/ IV pay or at whatever group rate he would be displaced to? This might make a huge difference in who takes the early retirement.

Dobbs18 05-27-2020 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by texaspilot76 (Post 3064869)
I also wonder this:

If a current 330/ 767 Pilot takes VPLOA, will he get the 50 hours at group III/ IV pay or at whatever group rate he would be displaced to? This might make a huge difference in who takes the early retirement.

they get paid what they are currently on if awarded the VPLOA BEFORE the vacancy/displacement comes out....if they take the VPLOA after the vacancy they will transition to whatever they are awarded on the effective date of their award...someone correct me if i am wrong but thats how i understand it.

Downtime 05-27-2020 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by Dobbs18 (Post 3064886)
they get paid what they are currently on if awarded the VPLOA BEFORE the vacancy/displacement comes out....if they take the VPLOA after the vacancy they will transition to whatever they are awarded on the effective date of their award...someone correct me if i am wrong but thats how i understand it.


I think you are probably right but isn’t this a September award? So they will have a limited time to take the money and run? However the company did not offer as many early outs this month so it is possible that they see our staffing getting to be where it needs to be.

Flying101 05-27-2020 08:07 AM

When do the vacancy result come out anyways?

AllYourBaseAreB 05-27-2020 10:17 AM

We are guessing mid june

rcflying53 05-27-2020 10:47 AM

Preliminary award scheduled to be out on June 11.

Dobbs18 05-27-2020 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by Downtime (Post 3064899)
I think you are probably right but isn’t this a September award? So they will have a limited time to take the money and run? However the company did not offer as many early outs this month so it is possible that they see our staffing getting to be where it needs to be.

thry will "make money" as long as they get the VPLOA award before they post the vacancy results..ex. if awarded VPLOA June 5th, and then displaced from 330/CA to 320/CA on June 11th via sept vacancy, they will stay at 330/CA pay for the duration of their VPLOA time.

Downtime 05-27-2020 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by rcflying53 (Post 3065091)
Preliminary award scheduled to be out on June 11.


You taking the over or under on it lol.


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