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Dunkin 10-12-2020 08:53 AM

I’ll be one of the last pilots recalled and I’m planning on a 5 year furlough as worst case scenario, if it’s longer than that I’ll just assume AA isn’t even around at that point.

Based on retirements and zero growth I’ll be recalled in 2023.

Route66 10-12-2020 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by flyinawa (Post 3143922)
Adding “Known Union Buster”? Completely unfounded, delusional, and inflammatory. You really are a piece of garbage.

is that you, Eric?

LabDad06 10-12-2020 10:12 AM

Good luck to everyone, hope you all land somewhere soon or this takes a surprising turn for the better. Anyone know how long CJOs lasted in previous furloughs?

SilentLurker 10-12-2020 10:27 AM

How long will it last?
 

Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta (Post 3142903)
Can you sit there and type with a straight face that the Dems would be pushing the idea of statehood for PR and DC if they thought it would hurt them? They arrogantly presume they are shoo-ins for their party. If the shoe was on the other foot, they would be screaming bloody murder to stop it.

Face it, there’s plenty of hypocrisy to go around.


If we allow “Hypocrisy” on any side, red or blue, the entire nation’s credibility is harmed! We are all screws when accountability is lost to protect a party or candidate.

If you can point finger at Nacy Pelosi but can’t point finger @ DJT not wearing a mask a thousand times over.... than you are a Hypocrite!


Most don’t care if PR or DC is a R or D.

IF THEY ARE AMERICANS THEIR VOTES SHOULD COUNT.... PERIOD! To make excuses otherwise is hypocritical no matter you party.

This nation needs more moderates & Independents.

The Aviation industry would be served better with a UNITED STATES. Not a red or blue mindset!

Cockpit environments nationwide would be much more comfortable as well.

ZeroTT 10-12-2020 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by LabDad06 (Post 3144124)
Anyone know how long CJOs lasted in previous furloughs?

think that’s more an HR idiosyncrasy than any specific timeline

bababouey 10-12-2020 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by SilentLurker (Post 3144129)
If we allow “Hypocrisy” on any side, red or blue, the entire nation’s credibility is harmed! We are all screws when accountability is lost to protect a party or candidate.

If you can point finger at Nacy Pelosi but can’t point finger @ DJT not wearing a mask a thousand times over.... than you are a Hypocrite!


Most don’t care if PR or DC is a R or D.

IF THEY ARE AMERICANS THEIR VOTES SHOULD COUNT.... PERIOD! To make excuses otherwise is hypocritical no matter you party.

This nation needs more moderates & Independents.

The Aviation industry would be served better with a UNITED STATES. Not a red or blue mindset!

Cockpit environments nationwide would be much more comfortable as well.

you’re not really being silent or lurking.

chrisreedrules 10-12-2020 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by bababouey (Post 3144046)
No need to get your panties in a bunch, next summer will make or break this place. Expect talk (good or bad) about summer bookings come April~ish. Then you will see the press for concessions to avoid bk court. My personal view is that we will have demand for our narrow bodies, but long haul demand will be weak, however they figure out to minimize losses from that will be the key ticket. Thankfully our Atlantic and pacific offerings were so weak that we are less exposed than d or u.

AA only has enough cash to roughly last until next summer / fall. And with their debt they wont qualify for anything resembling favorable DIP financing terms. So they’ll self-finance (hence the massive treasury loans). They’ll file much sooner than next spring is my guess.

bababouey 10-12-2020 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 3144196)
AA only has enough cash to roughly last until next summer / fall. And with their debt they wont qualify for anything resembling favorable DIP financing terms. So they’ll self-finance (hence the massive treasury loans). They’ll file much sooner than next spring is my guess.

you’re assumption is predicated on cash burn staying at current rate, $35 mill/day. I’m betting it gets better. We still have things to leverage, assets to sell too, not time to throw in the towel yet.

ZeroTT 10-12-2020 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by bababouey (Post 3144207)
you’re assumption is predicated on cash burn staying at current rate, $35 mill/day.

given the withdrawal of payroll support, what would allow it to get better?

SilentLurker 10-12-2020 04:34 PM

How long will it last?
 

Originally Posted by bababouey (Post 3144138)
you’re not really being silent or lurking.


Happy to have vexed your nerve.


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