Originally Posted by FenderGL
(Post 3465986)
What if you’re in an AA base (non-Delta base), with an AA class date and a Delta interview a month out. Do you even bother going to the Delta interview or just cancel it? I’m leaning towards the latter. Any reasons why I should still go to the interview?
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Originally Posted by FenderGL
(Post 3465986)
What if you’re in an AA base (non-Delta base), with an AA class date and a Delta interview a month out. Do you even bother going to the Delta interview or just cancel it? I’m leaning towards the latter. Any reasons why I should still go to the interview?
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Originally Posted by SunDevilPilot
(Post 3465963)
I came on property a month ago, the getting is good. I don’t think DL comes anywhere close in terms of progression
-Easier commute with Delta. -Way better contract. -Better pay. -Much better work rules. -Union representation that isn’t a dumpster fire. -Healthier company with better profitability. AA has much more seniority movement over the next 5 years but when you look out over the term of a 25 year career they aren’t much different (for me). |
Originally Posted by FenderGL
(Post 3465986)
What if you’re in an AA base (non-Delta base), with an AA class date and a Delta interview a month out. Do you even bother going to the Delta interview or just cancel it? I’m leaning towards the latter. Any reasons why I should still go to the interview?
With the movement at AA someone hired now can likely hold NB CA in most bases within 3 years. You're not going to see that at DL. Maybe UA but honestly I think UA is on shakier financial ground than AA right now. If you don't really want to work somewhere why would you go to the interview? To keep your options open? Maybe. But that's a lot of trouble to go through and you're still going to have an even bigger decision to make if you get the job. |
Thanks all for the quick inputs, seems to line up with what I was thinking. My only concern I guess would be: if AA did have to hypothetically file BC in the next 12-24 months, what kind of impact would that have on me as a relative new hire?
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Originally Posted by FenderGL
(Post 3466034)
Thanks all for the quick inputs, seems to line up with what I was thinking. My only concern I guess would be: if AA did have to hypothetically file BC in the next 12-24 months, what kind of impact would that have on me as a relative new hire?
I think that would be the beauty of an AA BK. They couldn’t touch the pilot contract. They’d lose all hope of ever recruiting with that. |
Originally Posted by FenderGL
(Post 3466034)
Thanks all for the quick inputs, seems to line up with what I was thinking. My only concern I guess would be: if AA did have to hypothetically file BC in the next 12-24 months, what kind of impact would that have on me as a relative new hire?
Except without the butter. Same as would happen to the junior people at any other airline that went through Chapter 11. AA’s high rate of upcoming retirements might well mitigate how long you were toast though. But for any airline that does go through bankruptcy, the pilot group is going to be a decade clawing back their losses. Look at how long it’s been with the DL and UA pension give-ups. |
Originally Posted by FenderGL
(Post 3466034)
Thanks all for the quick inputs, seems to line up with what I was thinking. My only concern I guess would be: if AA did have to hypothetically file BC in the next 12-24 months, what kind of impact would that have on me as a relative new hire?
More likely case is Ch 11. Contracts get restructured (not just labor contracts) and debt get wiped out. New corporate umbrella and new livery. The need for pilots and the number of retirements isn't going to change so mass layoffs unlikely in that scenario. Maybe a few more years under a crappy contract dating to the last bk. Dark horse is if AA gets broken up in a bk. That could happen if .gov gets involved in a bailout especially if dems in office. That could affect pilot lives. Fragmentation language may offer protection, pilots go with the airplanes but is that really desirable? And what happens to the pieces? bought by other legacies making their economic footprint even bigger? Sold to SWA or a ULCC? New airline? This scenario has a lot of questions which makes it unlikely. No most likely you just keep doing what you're doing and put up with a crap contract for another cycle. |
Most likely AA will go to bankruptcy in my opinion. Probably won’t be much more than an inconvenience to labor. As has been stated above I’m not sure how much the APA contract can really be touched and still be able to remain competitive. I imagine it will look more like RAH’s recent bankruptcy. Shed some airframes potentially. Maybe tighten up the operation. Maybe shed a base or 2… But the pilots will likely be left alone.
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