Airline Pilot Central Forums

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)
-   American (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/american/)
-   -   Bankruptcy (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/american/132024-bankruptcy.html)

Texasbound 06-08-2021 03:47 PM

So, has the Bankruptcy been deferred to next year?

ACEssXfer 06-08-2021 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by Texasbound (Post 3247261)
So, has the Bankruptcy been deferred to next year?

So many financial experts wrong in one thread........How could this happen?

Excargodog 06-08-2021 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by ACEssXfer (Post 3247264)
So many financial experts wrong in one thread........How could this happen?


https://i.ibb.co/BGPXHcj/5-B6-DC37-E...-F93875291.jpg

Al Czervik 06-08-2021 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by Texasbound (Post 3247261)
So, has the Bankruptcy been deferred to next year?

chrisreedrules has entered the chat.

sanicom3205 06-08-2021 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 3247291)
chrisreedrules has entered the chat.

chrisreedrules is away right now, please leave a message

JulesWinfield 06-08-2021 07:23 PM

3b down, another 47 to go.

chrisreedrules 06-08-2021 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by sanicom3205 (Post 3247343)
chrisreedrules is away right now, please leave a message

:)

3 bailouts later and here we are. I figured 1 bailout would happen. 2? Maybe... But 3? The whole thing is kind of nutty to me still.

But hey, here we are. Still not profitable and still in an absurd amount of debt. Certainly no threat of a Chapter 7 liquidation at this point but I still think that Chapter 11 is in the cards. Unless anyone thinks our economy and social ailments are going to get better in the next 2-3 years?

Maybe we see a massive return of business and international travel sooner rather than later? Hell I don’t know. Not even the most optimistic projections back in March we’re showing the leisure travel numbers where they are right now. So who knows...

RIPV3 06-08-2021 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 3247396)
:)
Not even the most optimistic projections back in March we’re showing the leisure travel numbers where they are right now. So who knows...

Everyone who ignored the expert projections and listened to every person they knew, who couldn't/can't wait to get out and travel. I know a lot of people with trips booked or planned.

TransWorld 06-08-2021 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 3247396)
Not even the most optimistic projections back in March we’re showing the leisure travel numbers where they are right now. So who knows...

I said well back in fall 2020 that summer 2021 would be 70 to 80% overall. I was ridiculed. That is where we are running, total.

My projection was not off. By later summer we may even exceed that percentage a bit.

Excargodog 06-08-2021 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 3247396)
3 bailouts later and here we are. I figured 1 bailout would happen. 2? Maybe... But 3? The whole thing is kind of nutty to me still.

But hey, here we are. Still not profitable and still in an absurd amount of debt. Certainly no threat of a Chapter 7 liquidation at this point but I still think that Chapter 11 is in the cards. Unless anyone thinks our economy and social ailments are going to get better in the next 2-3 years?

Maybe we see a massive return of business and international travel sooner rather than later? Hell I don’t know. Not even the most optimistic projections back in March we’re showing the leisure travel numbers where they are right now. So who knows...

https://i.ibb.co/WGTCLKm/83-F0894-D-...EE50154-F2.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/Q90Nbtg/90047001-E8...-EC1-EDED0.jpg


When you lose more money in one year than you’ve made in the preceding four years, DESPITE government assistance, and halfway through the next year the bleeding STILL hasn’t stopped, being worried about the possibility of a Chapter 11 bankruptcy isn’t paranoia, it’s just common sense. Whether bankruptcy happens or not, the risk of it happening has certainly been greatly elevated.

https://i.ibb.co/Jz4NRKg/9-CD95531-7...DF8-C85-E5.jpg

Yellen claiming that inflation might be a GOOD thing doesn’t help either, because it drives loan rates up directly and debt service up when bonds mature and new bonds must be sold at higher coupon to retire the old debt.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:12 AM.


User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Website Copyright ©2000 - 2017 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands