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FlyGuy2021 02-18-2024 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Testrun (Post 3770756)
Not type ratings, just different types of aircraft. Going back to the piston days. There are well over 20 types of just Cessna.

The major categories are group together in the summation pages. They don't care that you have 7 hours in a 172 J model, and 8 hours in a 172 K model.

Silver02ex 02-18-2024 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ErnieG (Post 3770759)
I didn't round any hours in my app. And my logbook is exactly to the hour as it's been electronic for over a decade now. What do you mean?

Most apps will round the .x hours to the nearest hour. So If I put 500.7, it might round it to 501 on the app. I think 80 hrs difference from the logbook to the app is excesive but 2-3 hrs is normal. Since If I have 10 different types of airplane I flew, once the app round up and down each type it can be off a couple of hours.

Testrun 02-18-2024 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ErnieG (Post 3770759)
I didn't round any hours in my app. And my logbook is exactly to the hour as it's been electronic for over a decade now. What do you mean?

I should specify. The online application. I do not have an electronic log book. I am all paper. If I round to the nearest whole number it will never be exact. It should be off by a bit from student pilot days. I could just be paranoid, just trying to make sure it is proper.

60av8tor 02-18-2024 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Testrun (Post 3770754)
off around 80 some hours from application to actual log book time. This is about 2 big log books worth of time. There is no way it will be accurate.

Why not? When I was doing legacy apps in 18-19 I had 3 logbooks and military records that spanned prior to 9/11 - I went line by line - aircraft, condition, etc. Ton of work but it was accurate. You're the one filling out the apps vs your records. Not sure why you're saying it can't be accurate? Your records add up to something - that goes on the app.

Testrun 02-18-2024 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyGuy2021 (Post 3770760)
The major categories are group together in the summation pages. They don't care that you have 7 hours in a 172 J model, and 8 hours in a 172 K model.

I am speaking more of C-150, 172, 172rg, 180, 182,182rg, 207 (they group the 205,206, and 207 togther), 208, 210, 310, 335, 340, 404, 402, 414, 421, 441, for example. I am just trying to give them what they want. This is what the technically asked for. I didn't see "summary page" on the new website application page.
I could have grouple all the single non complex together, but again, this isn't what they asked for.

Testrun 02-18-2024 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 60av8tor (Post 3770771)
Why not? When I was doing legacy apps in 18-19 I had 3 logbooks and military records that spanned prior to 9/11 - I went line by line - aircraft, condition, etc. Ton of work but it was accurate. You're the one filling out the apps vs your records. Not sure why you're saying it can't be accurate? Your records add up to something - that goes on the app.

The online application asks for you to round the numbers to the nearest whole. This is what I did. Just for the hell of it I went back and added the exact hours and compared it to the whole numbers for each page. The result it 1-3 hours off per page. I did this with 8 pages and assume it to be valid for all. if you have 200 pages and each page is 1 hour thats 100 (technically it is be 200) hours right there, no? Make sense?
example 3.4x7=23.8 round each 3.4 toa whole which is 3......3x7=21
since I have around 60 different aircraft I had to add up multiple scattered rows in the book.

this was just the nature of my job. Sorry it doesn't fit into the norm. I am just trying to figure this out.

60av8tor 02-18-2024 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Testrun (Post 3770777)
The online application asks for you to round the numbers to the nearest whole. This is what I did. Just for the hell of it I went back and added the exact hours and compared it to the whole numbers for each page. The result it 1-3 hours off per page. I did this with 8 pages and assume it to be valid for all. if you have 200 pages and each page is 1 hour thats 100 (technically it is be 200) hours right there, no? Make sense?
example 3.4x7=23.8 round each 3.4 toa whole which is 3......3x7=21
since I have around 60 different aircraft I had to add up multiple scattered rows in the book.

this was just the nature of my job. Sorry it doesn't fit into the norm. I am just trying to figure this out.

Nothing to be sorry about. Just trying to understand what you're saying. I don't understand rounding for each page. The rounding is for the final # on the app. C-172 time... I add all my 1.2s, 2.3s, 1.8s, etc. It could be hundreds of lines. They all add up to 1854.6. For my app, I input 1855 C-172 hours. Same for 145, 737, 787, IMC, PIC, etc.

Perhaps I'm missing something.

Waco UPF7 02-18-2024 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Testrun (Post 3770754)
Last quick question. Since we are rounding to the whole numbers, it should be normal for someone with 7000 hours to be off around 80 some hours from application to actual log book time. This is about 2 big log books worth of time. There is no way it will be accurate. Is there a specific margin of time time difference the interviewers are looking for? I would think it could be plus or minus 100 book. The aveage was 2 hours per page when I did a quick check. Sorry, probably a goofy question. I haven't had to deal with logs or interviews for a decade.

if it has not been suggested already, I suggest utilizing an app review company. Costs some money but they’ll have insight into what is expected with your experience. Sounds like yours may be unique. Good luck!

Testrun 02-18-2024 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 60av8tor (Post 3770784)
Nothing to be sorry about. Just trying to understand what you're saying. I don't understand rounding for each page. The rounding is for the final # on the app. C-172 time... I add all my 1.2s, 2.3s, 1.8s, etc. It could be hundreds of lines. They all add up to 1854.6. For my app, I input 1855 C-172 hours. Same for 145, 737, 787, IMC, PIC, etc.

Perhaps I'm missing something.

Gotcha. I could definitely have an error. I still know it is impossible to be 100%accurate, but should not be off as much as what I am. I I will painfully go back and add up my jet time and see if I missed something. Even if I had 60 different types of aircraft, there should be more than 60 hours off the TT. One wouldnt think so anyway.

ImSoSuss 02-18-2024 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Waco UPF7 (Post 3770788)
if it has not been suggested already, I suggest utilizing an app review company. Costs some money but they’ll have insight into what is expected with your experience. Sounds like yours may be unique. Good luck!

people are applying for the Legacies these days and not using an app review company? Wow, must be nice for hiring to be this assured these days where you don't give a **** about how your app comes off. What a time we live in.


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