I also signed up for the MIA meet the chiefs, but I have not heard one way or the other if I had been picked to attend.

Is this the normal class flow for AA? Trying to work on potential Palace Chase timing (if I'm lucky enough to be hired) but don't want to be unemployed for a couple months if I time it wrong.

You’ll get called with a class date with plenty of time to plan your exit from your current position.

Doesn't really work that way with the military and the program PickleRick is trying to do. They are trying to move their availabilty to the left, so if approved they will be done with active duty sooner and transition over to the reserves. Knowing when the possible class dates are or aren't could help someone walk off the mil base and fly to DFW the next day.

I interviewed the 12th of December and havent heard anything yet.

Candidates with CJO's from the 5th and 6th of Dec are still waiting as well. I am curious if they build enough of a candidate pool to fill one class date as opposed to inviting small groups.

All of HQ seemingly takes a month off this time of year….

Waiting 6 to 8 weeks for a class date used to be the norm and it looks like we are getting back to that and even trending longer.

When I Palace Chased, my mentality was that I’d rather be unemployed than spend a single day longer than I had to on active duty.

Did you get an a confirmation email after you applied on October last year? I applied on November 29th and I haven't received any email yet. Is that normal?

Thank's a lot

for the mil applicants, what kind of lead time from date of separation is AA likely to entertain these days on the application? 6/12/18/24 months?

I know of guys that have had interviews 13 and 14 months from availability. Best thing if it’s far out make sure to go to a job fair.

Six months from earliest start date (not separation date) seemed to be the magic number for me.

I had a few apps published out there in the ether and received nothing except crickets until my projected start date minus six months. When my 6-months-out date happened, three different HR departments each reached out within a week or two of one another.

I did not attend any job fairs though, so I cannot speak to how much that would have accelerated the timeline.

I know folks who have gotten interview invites in the 11-9 month out from separation. I also know of a bunch of folks who attended RTAG or OBAP and got an on-site interview after doing a meet and greet with AA.
*note all these people were AF and have 1000+ TPIC muti-engine turbine. I know the Navy/rotorheads seem a little lighter on the hours overall.

12 months almost to the day; and I verified this at the interview and with an interviewer who I know personally. Obviously with need things vary, but that’s what I would expect as a no earlier than.

solid feedback, thnx guys, much appreciated.

Class date coming up, about a month away. Early November interview and CJO, all docs and checks done mid November and then in late November I got the call offering the date for mid February (and an email to reply with a “I accept class date such and such). The confirmation email said something to the effect of “you’re added to the class” and “onboarding will reach out to you in a few weeks with more info.” And that was almost 2 months ago.

So about how far in advance of my class date should I expect to see this “more info?” A few weeks before class? I’m putting in my 2 week notice real real soon, so it’s naturally making me a little antsy not having received any additional comms. Tried asking a couple friends but they had a real short time gap between their CJO and class date so I’m not sure what the timeline is.

I was fortunate to get a job fair CJO 15+ months out from availability. Corey Glenn mentioned that AA CJOs are good indefinitely (unlike others that put a 12 cap on the CJO)

Alright good, thank you. They assigned me first-available back around Thanksgiving, Feb 21. So I’m counting the days and getting ready to submit resignation at my current airline, any day now. It’s always a bit nerve-racking to quit one job and just hope something doesn’t happen to the next job offer.

Also thanks for the onboarding/Indoc info. The missus of course has been asking a lot about when I’m going/travel arrangements, and recently asked about coming with. I didn’t even know that was a thing, but I guess she caught wind of that from some social media? Very cool. My last two companies both sent relentless comms and also didn’t have anything special or invite a plus one to a dinner. Looking forward to it.

I am sure AA recruiters will be at Women in Aviation, anyone know if there's a way to register for a set slot or do you just show up? I haven't found a resource either way.....

No, I didn't get any confirmation email when I initially applied. I've just got that email on my previous post a week ago.

Have not been to WAI but from the other job fairs I have attended, you preregister for the event and there is usually some sort of email that goes out for interview signups or you are invited based on your qualifications. Either way there is still the option to wait in line for a meet and greet and try to snag an interview. Try and go the first day and early for best results.

Is there a typical timeframe where there's no indoc classes at AA? Seems like December/Early January, and I've also heard July some years?

PST again?
 

I completed my PST test back in September after receiving the thank you for applying email and the email with the credentials for the PST, I didn't hear back until today that I received an email from [email protected] again, saying thank you for submitting your application, and to take the assessment. I clicked on the link and it's like if I had never done it before. Also. I filled my application on pilots.aa.com and this new email directs me to jobs.aa.com, upon log in a lot of information is missing and it has a warning sign under Jobs Applied that states that I have to take the assessment. Should I wait, take the test again or contact someone?

They are not doing classes in March this year.

Same thing happened to me. Took the test again.. idk?

same thing here. My guess is they are checking to see how many candidates are still active with the applications and evaluating minimum qualifications they are looking at to start interviewing the next pool of applicants

no, nothing typical or predictable. Whatever they deem the needs of the airline to be. They even had classes start over the Holidays two years ago when they were on a mad dash to get pilots on board after COVID

is PHL AB still Junior-ish?

Yes. As junior as Miami

thx.................

South Florida B6 guy with an app in hoping to come over. Ton of friends at DL and UA but none at AA, with 3000+ turbine 6000+ TT am I looking at attending an expo to meet some recruiters? Or is that enough time to get an interview without internal recs?

Who knows. There apparently was an unknown amount of brownie points in the past (2014-2016) when I was helping at job fairs. One out of 100? Two out of 1,000? No one knew.

It apparently helps. Otherwise why would they be having 'meet the Chiefs' opportunities?

The magic number of TT, turbine PIC, turbine time that you need is....who knows. The only criteria they've acknowledged is 'highly qualified' and 'competitive'. Delta said that was 1000 TPIC and 500 TPIC. AA pilot hiring team weren't happy when the Delta CP said those numbers. The feeling was that AA used the same numbers.

With 6,000 TT, 3,000 turbine, 121 time at a major airline, A320 type rating, I'd think you'd be in the sweet spot. TPIC would be a big plus, especially Part 121 TPIC. Top guy said they're lacking in applicants who have TPIC "other than PC-12 time" (sounded like he wasn't impressed by PC-12 time). Based on that I'd think they'd like to see jet TPIC or non-SEL turboprop PIC.

Thanks for the reply, alas no TPIC. I see there's a Meet The Chiefs on Friday but they aren't allowing further bookings. Bummer, that would have been perfect

Go to the job fairs. Back in 2014-2015 a regional FO (!!!) had gone to 18 (!!!) job fairs even when the majors weren't hiring. EVERY hiring team knew him. First name basis. Good guy. Think what regional FO pay was back in the 2014-2016? Ugly. At a minimum he'd non-rev in that morning and take a late flight back home. Only out any registration fees and food.

Fast forward airlines start hiring and he's getting no traction. FO w/seat stagnation. There were more TPIC candidates w/1000 hrs TPIC than the Big 4 were hiring. They'd tell him "get some TPIC time". He gets his upgrade and a Big 3 airline interviews him. He's at the Big 3 airline before he finishes consolidation. Getting 121 PIC qualification, and passing the training, was the trigger for him. He retires in the top 100.

It's relatively cheap to go to a job fair. Put yourself out there.

Don't have a new rating in the last year or two? I'd go get more. SES, PPL glider, MES, Comm glider, are easy/cheap ways to fluff your resume. In the past some airlines didn't care for guys that hadn't gone through a training cycle (new a/c or upgrade in the same a/c) for years. Is the guy 'hiding' (not uncommon with guys who struggle)?

What triggers the call is unknown. But as many check marks in your favor that you can. Sitting on your current resume when there's other relatively steps out there is just 'hoping and praying.' I tell guys "you had your foot on the gas when you were trying to get hired. Why stop now? Chase #1 hard until it no longer makes sense while you stay at the lower ranked job that improves in value ever month you're not at #1 due to seniority improvement at your current job and more younger bodies ahead of you at job #1, 2, 3, etc.

Good luck.

If you get hired report back on any steps did, or didn't, take.

Hiring slowing down. Stay tuned.

nice and vague, just how I like it

Maybe we wait until the State of the Airline on Thursday to see what's going on?

wouldn't be surprised. AA has always been reactionary and is noticing what other airlines are doing. I suspected they may start to reevaluate their hiring numbers sometime early this year.