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sanicom3205 11-26-2021 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by Setspeed (Post 3327506)
It’s always like that when you’re new. Takes a little bit to become jaded.

For sure. It takes time to really get how a company really operates, the shine wears off and reality comes through

Tjeff 11-26-2021 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by sanicom3205 (Post 3327505)
Maybe you’ll gain some insight when you’ve been here longer than one trip with a CKA whose job is to make you comfortable, food for thought

Well what I was trying to say is that from talking to people who actually fly/work the line and have been for years, it’s mostly positive. These forums are mostly negative. So either most AA pilots are liars in person for no apparent reason or these forums are more negative than reality. Of course my personal experience is limited.

Al Czervik 11-26-2021 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by sanicom3205 (Post 3327505)
Maybe you’ll gain some insight when you’ve been here longer than one trip with a CKA whose job is to make you comfortable, food for thought


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TallFlyer 11-26-2021 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by typical41 (Post 3327450)
We are paying our regional pilots as much as 180,000 bucks to just not go to another mainline carrier. They clearly value regional feed above ALL else, which speaks to our managers one-tracked out of focus approach to everything. They only know how to manage cheap short term solutions, never seeing the full picture. Even if the industry is beginning to show how unsustainable the regional feed flying, at this scale is, aa leaders will be the LAST to recognize and act on it. They follow, not lead. United and/or delta will make a decision, then aa will be forced to respond.

To be fair, they are TRYING to pay the WO pilots nearly that amount of money to stay and flow to AA, but the only ones that take it are the ones who know that going to AA is what they’re going to do (full disclosure: I’m one of them).

The rest that have any aspirations towards DAL, UAL, or FDX are refusing the bonus money and making it to their dream gig fairly quickly in this environment, and that includes pilots that would have flowed in very short order. Heck, there are rumors of pilots that have flowed, collected 100K, then take CJOs at other carriers not long after.

As to your characterization of AAs attitudes towards regional life compared to DAL and UAL, spot on. They’ll be the last to make the strategic shift, long after A220 delivery slots have dried up. Maybe they can get those old 190s back…..


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OpieTaylor 11-26-2021 06:02 PM

What is the average years of service to hit 50% mark as a NB FO in DFW or CLT?

Pilot X 11-26-2021 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by sanicom3205 (Post 3327505)
Maybe you’ll gain some insight when you’ve been here longer than one trip with a CKA whose job is to make you comfortable, food for thought

been here 14 years between us airways and American and have not experienced anywhere near the negativity seen on here. You guys sound like lots of fun to fly with, this ain’t a difficult job. And flying the line is much nicer than flying with a check airmen, you seem to have things backwards

FlyyGuyy 11-27-2021 03:22 AM


Originally Posted by OpieTaylor (Post 3327574)
What is the average years of service to hit 50% mark as a NB FO in DFW or CLT?

Too lazy to look it up. I'm around 85% in Charlotte. 2.5 years, roughly.

sanicom3205 11-27-2021 05:12 AM


Originally Posted by Pilot X (Post 3327623)
been here 14 years between us airways and American and have not experienced anywhere near the negativity seen on here. You guys sound like lots of fun to fly with, this ain’t a difficult job. And flying the line is much nicer than flying with a check airmen, you seem to have things backwards

No doubt about flying with line guys, that checks with the fact that a CKA may not tell it how it is. It should be no surprise that guys are more negative online than in person

PRS Guitars 11-27-2021 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by sanicom3205 (Post 3327505)
Maybe you’ll gain some insight when you’ve been here longer than one trip with a CKA whose job is to make you comfortable, food for thought

Most pilots here are great to fly with IMO. Sure we have our 5%’s and the dreaded 1%’s, but that’s everywhere. The job will be what you make it, not sure what you mean about Check Airman not telling you how it is, as opposed to line pilots? there are 13,000 different pilot opinions of how it is, do you need to be fed your opinion by other pilots? Best thing is to do your job, enjoy your layovers, and give zero ****s about other pilots opinions.

Tjeff 11-27-2021 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by sanicom3205 (Post 3327673)
No doubt about flying with line guys, that checks with the fact that a CKA may not tell it how it is. It should be no surprise that guys are more negative online than in person

Exactly thank you for supporting my point sanicom. My CKA’s actually haven’t said anything about AA we have been busy but people in the “real world” have expressed it’s a great place to work.


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