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thrust 12-01-2021 05:06 AM


Originally Posted by EMBFlyer (Post 3329305)
Just remember, AA only RECENTLY stopped using QFE!

How recently is “RECENTLY”?

nimslow 12-01-2021 05:29 AM


Originally Posted by thrust (Post 3329442)
How recently is “RECENTLY”?

Apparently 30 years ago is "recently".

EMBFlyer 12-01-2021 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by thrust (Post 3329442)
How recently is “RECENTLY”?

Considering the practice generally went away in the 60s (with the exception of Russia), and AA kept it well into the 90s, I'd say that's fairly recent.

95+ years of tradition, unheeded by progress.

Arado 234 12-01-2021 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by EMBFlyer (Post 3329597)
Considering the practice generally went away in the 60s (with the exception of Russia), and AA kept it well into the 90s, I'd say that's fairly recent.

95+ years of tradition, unheeded by progress.

Don't forget the hand motion that was involved with the gear up call. Been there since the DC2, only taken out of the training manual recently.

Saabs 12-01-2021 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by Arado 234 (Post 3329671)
Don't forget the hand motion that was involved with the gear up call. Been there since the DC2, only taken out of the training manual recently.

I don’t see it too much in CLT, but occasionally I do.

FlyyGuyy 12-01-2021 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by Saabs (Post 3329686)
I don’t see it too much in CLT, but occasionally I do.

When I was in Miami, it was everyone.

PRS Guitars 12-01-2021 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by Saabs (Post 3329686)
I don’t see it too much in CLT, but occasionally I do.

Its nearly 100% with LAA guys, I don’t let it bug me, but try not to add any frivolous callouts or hand motions my self

Dobbs18 12-01-2021 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by PRS Guitars (Post 3329856)
Its nearly 100% with LAA guys, I don’t let it bug me, but try not to add any frivolous callouts or hand motions my self

Same....its a muscle memory thing more than anything else so I try to not let it bother me. Most guys try not to do it now, but I am sure there is something I do that has driven someone bonkers but I hope not!

ny797 12-02-2021 04:11 AM


Originally Posted by Arado 234 (Post 3329277)
I have not gotten a clear answer on cross division pick up. Neither from the union nor the company. I always get a different answer.

You can pick up cross division in DOTC for PM/PR (premium makeup/premium reserve) Not sure about MU (makeup, basically straight time) but at this point why would you since everything is going premium. You cannot pickup cross division in TTS.

thrust 12-02-2021 04:44 AM


Originally Posted by Dobbs18 (Post 3329861)
Same....its a muscle memory thing more than anything else so I try to not let it bother me. Most guys try not to do it now, but I am sure there is something I do that has driven someone bonkers but I hope not!

Agree. In terms of “silly/annoying things captains do” the gear gesture doesn’t even move the needle.


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