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CaptOveur 12-13-2021 12:03 PM

How senior does the ORD 737 or 787 go? Does everyone anticipate the base will stay the same or grow or impossible to tell?

Thanks.

NorthwestAA 12-13-2021 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by AllYourBaseAreB (Post 3335038)
The metrics say very few guys are leaving early…. That future #1 that left at 63/64 probably had enough money to retire at 55. Probably able to hold 767 CA since 40

I'm bailing early, could have left a while ago, almost did, but liked the chance to go fly. I can think of 10 LA guys that are doing the same. Good luck with Isom and his 20 yr old head of scheduling. Cheers.

Al Czervik 12-13-2021 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by CaptOveur (Post 3335233)
How senior does the ORD 737 or 787 go? Does everyone anticipate the base will stay the same or grow or impossible to tell?

Thanks.

My WAG is ORD goes to new hires in 22 on the 73. The last bid….the junior award (other than reinstated pilots) on the 78 was 10+ years. Vasu stated the 78 will be growing in ORD.

CaptOveur 12-13-2021 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 3335294)
My WAG is ORD goes to new hires in 22 on the 73. The last bid….the junior award (other than reinstated pilots) on the 78 was 10+ years. Vasu stated the 78 will be growing in ORD.

Great! Thanks.

thrust 12-13-2021 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 3335294)
My WAG is ORD goes to new hires in 22 on the 73. The last bid….the junior award (other than reinstated pilots) on the 78 was 10+ years. Vasu stated the 78 will be growing in ORD.

Looking at the 3XP for March 2022 shows a October 2015 hire as junior ORD 787 FO. I guess that could go further junior on the June 2022 vacancy, depending on what happens with the delayed 787 deliveries. Where do you see 10+ years?

Al Czervik 12-13-2021 11:34 PM


Originally Posted by thrust (Post 3335397)
Looking at the 3XP for March 2022 shows a October 2015 hire as junior ORD 787 FO. I guess that could go further junior on the June 2022 vacancy, depending on what happens with the delayed 787 deliveries. Where do you see 10+ years?


Reinstatement vs preference

ZeroTT 12-15-2021 03:16 AM


Originally Posted by thrust (Post 3335397)
Where do you see 10+ years?

Consider the answers to that question you might have received in the past and how accurate they turned out

Cdiddy1 12-15-2021 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by AllYourBaseAreB (Post 3335221)
I will say this much: With the exception of pay, USairways in 2013 felt better run and with dramatically less abuse of employees. Is it regional bad? No, largely because of pay and the training department. But my regional experience ended in 2012. Compared to today’s regionals? Yeah, maybe. Most people hired pre 2017 are stuck here, afraid to give up the promise of great seniority and don’t want to go back to 1st year pay. Nobody sees the new CEO as an improvement. Nobody I know feels like any VPs other than Vasu has a half a clue what’s going on and he is just good at sales pitches


it’s the same people running the company now that were at the all great and wonderful USAIR. They suck.

AllYourBaseAreB 12-15-2021 08:16 AM

That’s my point. USairways wasn’t good it just sucked less.

Didn’t say they didn’t suck, but the merger certainly incorporated A LOT more middle management than before, a lot of experienced employees retired vs moving to DFW, and in turn, cause the hiring of A LOT of inexperienced people or straight up outsourcing of jobs. Our schedulers are clueless and way more heavy MTC is going to Central America. We are having multiple engine failures in flight every month. Crazy

Gundam 12-15-2021 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by AllYourBaseAreB (Post 3336126)
...and in turn, cause the hiring of A LOT of inexperienced people or straight up outsourcing of jobs. Our schedulers are clueless and way more heavy MTC is going to Central America. We are having multiple engine failures in flight every month. Crazy

Hold on. What? I assume the FAA is involved then at this point if that's true. How many months has this been occuring?


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