You can pick up cross division in base via P2P.

1) I’d love to know what this “gear hand gesture” y’all are talking about, as I have been here 21 years (LAA) and have never seen the hand gesture, nor heard it mentioned/taught during training. If it indeed happens it would be amusing to see, but I have never seen it.

2) QFE went away sometime in 1997 I believe, after the BDL tree trimmer. As I recall, the only two US airlines that used QFE into “modern” times were AA and Eastern. Back in the day before radio altimeters it was often praised as a safe procedure to indicate height above the ground at all times, as every ILS would be flown to 200’ on the main altimeters, and they would always read 0’ on the ground. With the advent of the radio altimeter it became a dated practice.

You’ve been here 21 years and don’t know what the gear handle gesture is?! I could care less that some captains do it, but yeah it’s definitely a quirk unique to LAA pilots.

No. I don’t know what it is because we have never trained any kind of “hand gesture” in my 21 years here. I’ve been on the 727, 75/76, MD80 and 737… nobody ever said a word about any hand gestures.. the only change I remember at one point is that the PF called out “positive rate gear up” but that was short lived. I’ve ridden countless jumpseats with LAA crews over the years and have yet to see it.
The only time I hear about it is here, on APC.

I would record it for you, but I'm pretty sure that would go over poorly. *Right hand appears in front of fo*. *thumb goes up* *entire hand goes up*. Sometimes this happens without a verbal "gear up" but that's not typical. I'm sure it's leftover from the dc3.

I’m thinking what you saw was an isolated thing (as weird as it sounds) and not necessarily reflective of any kind of training we ever received at LAA, because I never remember being taught anything like that. It was ALWAYS Positive Rate Gear Up and the PM raised the gear… period end of story. But can’t say I’m surprised to read about it here on APC as anything LAA whether real or fabricated is immediately subject to all kinds of ridicule. (and in this case it would be justified…)

Guard those auto throttles!!!!!

Imagine if that Asiana crew had that procedure…..


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aa73 I normally agree with you but on this you're crazy. I see the hand gesture from ~50% of LAA Captains I fly with.

imagine if that Asiana crew listened to the FO in the Jumpseat or had any scan what-so-ever