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Originally Posted by TallFlyer
(Post 3330452)
Imagine if that Asiana crew had that procedure…..
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Originally Posted by Andrew_VT
(Post 3330553)
aa73 I normally agree with you but on this you're crazy. I see the hand gesture from ~50% of LAA Captains I fly with.
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Originally Posted by aa73
(Post 3330433)
I’m thinking what you saw was an isolated thing (as weird as it sounds) and not necessarily reflective of any kind of training we ever received at LAA, because I never remember being taught anything like that. It was ALWAYS Positive Rate Gear Up and the PM raised the gear… period end of story. But can’t say I’m surprised to read about it here on APC as anything LAA whether real or fabricated is immediately subject to all kinds of ridicule. (and in this case it would be justified…)
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Basic questions about QOL at AA
Originally Posted by aa73
(Post 3330433)
I’m thinking what you saw was an isolated thing (as weird as it sounds)
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Originally Posted by aa73
(Post 3330352)
1) I’d love to know what this “gear hand gesture” y’all are talking about, as I have been here 21 years (LAA) and have never seen the hand gesture, nor heard it mentioned/taught during training. If it indeed happens it would be amusing to see, but I have never seen it.
2) QFE went away sometime in 1997 I believe, after the BDL tree trimmer. As I recall, the only two US airlines that used QFE into “modern” times were AA and Eastern. Back in the day before radio altimeters it was often praised as a safe procedure to indicate height above the ground at all times, as every ILS would be flown to 200’ on the main altimeters, and they would always read 0’ on the ground. With the advent of the radio altimeter it became a dated practice. |
Originally Posted by dera
(Post 3330761)
Whoever thought that was safe was an idiot. Probably the same guy who came up with F16 maneuvers to control a passenger jet in wake turbulence.
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The "gear up/down" hand gesture was a fairly common practice amongst USAF heavy drivers back in the day, and in the T-37 if I remember correctly. That practice has steadily died away, though. Some things, when drilled into someone's head, just can't be removed. In the C-130 world, it used to be standard practice but it was taken out of the regs many years ago...but there were a number of old guys who just wouldn't let it go.
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Seen it plenty on the line. Different ways also; open hand I dream of Jeannie style, thumbs up, to just a hand out and point at the handle.
C130s it’s still common practice for verbal&visual due to crew coordination since depending on the variant of aircraft it’s not a 2 person cockpit. Big picture… does it matter? |
Originally Posted by Al Czervik
(Post 3330672)
This posts shows a lack of understanding of multiple things.
I’ve never flown an aircraft with AT so perhaps you’re right. At the same time a hand very close to or on the thrust levers might’ve been a good clue to the two guys in the pilot seats that something was amiss. AYB makes some good points too. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by Hueypilot
(Post 3330776)
The "gear up/down" hand gesture was a fairly common practice amongst USAF heavy drivers back in the day, and in the T-37 if I remember correctly. That practice has steadily died away, though. Some things, when drilled into someone's head, just can't be removed. In the C-130 world, it used to be standard practice but it was taken out of the regs many years ago...but there were a number of old guys who just wouldn't let it go.
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