AA expanding PHX, via Envoy
09-29-2022 | 05:01 AM
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AA did want to shrink Phx. Post covid recovery changed their mind for now. They want to restore and expand it.
12-20-2022 | 12:22 PM
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12-20-2022 | 12:27 PM
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AA or Envoy? Two different things. AA already has a large presence in PHX. Although I do agree we need to expand our West Coast coverage; I think the best place to open up a new base for them would be Vegas.
12-20-2022 | 01:50 PM
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We do have a large West Coast presence via our One World partner, Alaska. 
We actually should have been the ones to take over Seattle before Delta did. Now it's saturated too. But hey, I guess AS can feed our London and random flight to India if that ever comes. Vegas is such a leisure destination can we charge the fares to make it viable as a hub? Probably not. Thats why PHX is still around. PHX is the equivalent to DL's SLC and UA's Denver. I'll give credit where it is due though. Taking over Austin was a good move. I bet we could add another flight to LHR from there and it'd be full.
We actually should have been the ones to take over Seattle before Delta did. Now it's saturated too. But hey, I guess AS can feed our London and random flight to India if that ever comes. Vegas is such a leisure destination can we charge the fares to make it viable as a hub? Probably not. Thats why PHX is still around. PHX is the equivalent to DL's SLC and UA's Denver. I'll give credit where it is due though. Taking over Austin was a good move. I bet we could add another flight to LHR from there and it'd be full.
12-20-2022 | 09:56 PM
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There is no announced date for Envoy in PHX. But Envoy is just taking over the flying from Mesa. Mesa will finally be gone from the AAG network by April 4.
The whole thing is still just a shell game. Mesa leaves (from DFW and PHX). PSA comes into DFW and Envoy into PHX. Air Wisconsin into ORD to cover the Envoy 145s being moved to Piedmont. Bottom line is no one really has the capacity (pilots) to do any expansion.
The whole thing is still just a shell game. Mesa leaves (from DFW and PHX). PSA comes into DFW and Envoy into PHX. Air Wisconsin into ORD to cover the Envoy 145s being moved to Piedmont. Bottom line is no one really has the capacity (pilots) to do any expansion.
12-21-2022 | 07:14 AM
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RNO is getting better? Honestly don't know, I haven't been there in years. But that city was dying a pretty horrible slow death starting in the late 90s when Las Vegas started exploding. Still can't see opening a base there. Probably at least 10 better options on the West Coast.
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