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fanblades93 10-25-2022 09:20 AM

Commuter Policy
 
Hello all,
Any info on AA current commuter policy? Thanks

greenroute 10-25-2022 09:48 AM

Technically only 1 flight required, but if you miss it crew scheduling won't help you get to work, you don't get paid for anything you miss, and there is some really vague language that says it is meant to be used "rarely" and at their discretion the company can require proof that you had open seats 24h prior, etc. Basically it's a non-policy, like the whole rest of the contract.

PRS Guitars 10-25-2022 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by greenroute (Post 3519877)
Technically only 1 flight required, but if you miss it crew scheduling won't help you get to work, you don't get paid for anything you miss, and there is some really vague language that says it is meant to be used "rarely" and at their discretion the company can require proof that you had open seats 24h prior, etc. Basically it's a non-policy, like the whole rest of the contract.

I’ve used it several times, it’s a pretty good policy. We don’t have to have back up flights, we don’t have to use our own airline, we don’t have to be in place a set time before sign in. Yes, you are not pay protected, but there is no discipline unless you use it a lot. Also, on reserve, you just go back on call, no pay docked, at least my experience. Crew scheduling may or may not help you get there, I’ve never tried calling them, I just went home…or never left home when the entire day canceled on me.

thrust 10-25-2022 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by greenroute (Post 3519877)
Technically only 1 flight required, but if you miss it crew scheduling won't help you get to work, you don't get paid for anything you miss, and there is some really vague language that says it is meant to be used "rarely" and at their discretion the company can require proof that you had open seats 24h prior, etc. Basically it's a non-policy, like the whole rest of the contract.

So much incorrect. Not even close.

fanblades93 10-25-2022 11:32 AM

Anything regarding hotels?

thrust 10-25-2022 11:33 AM

Previously discussed here and here… note the thread titles come from the Delta forum

https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/3497966-post21.html

https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/3486892-post275.html

PRS Guitars 10-25-2022 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by fanblades93 (Post 3519942)
Anything regarding hotels?

why would hotels be involved? Presumably, you’re now sitting at home due to missing your trip.

greenroute 10-25-2022 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by thrust (Post 3519933)
So much incorrect. Not even close.

That's literally the policy. Copy and paste something from the contract that says something different.

thrust 10-25-2022 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by greenroute (Post 3519991)
That's literally the policy. Copy and paste something from the contract that says something different.

Look at Supplement G of the JCBA. One flight isn’t required, because no flights are required. Commuting isn’t limited to air travel. You can commute from wherever- there’s no radius in time nor distance that constitutes a commuter. Because of that, you don’t need to prove open seats at 24 hours or some such BS. Don’t abuse it, don’t get caught lying on a recorded line (just like sick, you don’t have to tell scheduling why you’re invoking the commuter policy…), and you have zero to fear.

Oh, and if you are removed from a trip for CM… you can pick up over the footprint, to include premium…


So yeah. You were wrong.

greenroute 10-25-2022 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by thrust (Post 3520036)
Look at Supplement G of the JCBA. One flight isn’t required, because no flights are required. Commuting isn’t limited to air travel. You can commute from wherever- there’s no radius in time nor distance that constitutes a commuter. Because of that, you don’t need to prove open seats at 24 hours or some such BS. Don’t abuse it, don’t get caught lying on a recorded line (just like sick, you don’t have to tell scheduling why you’re invoking the commuter policy…), and you have zero to fear.

Oh, and if you are removed from a trip for CM… you can pick up over the footprint, to include premium…


So yeah. You were wrong.

  1. It is expected that a pilot will utilize the provisions of this Policy on a rare basis. Each event involving the use of this Policy will be considered independently and judged on its own unique circumstances. However, repeated use of this Policy may be considered in evaluations of a pilot's overall attendance/reliability and may require flight documentation going forward. Such documentation may include, but not limited to, the following:
    1. Adequate actual seat availability within twenty-four (24) hours of departure for online flights, or
    2. Scheduled to operate twenty-four (24) hours prior to departure for off line flights, and/or
    3. Flight scheduled to arrive at the pilot's domicile at a reasonable time before scheduled sign-in.

What does rarely mean? Not defined. Who's judging it on an individual basis? Well it doesn't say but I guess your chief pilot, whomever that may be.


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