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Old 02-05-2023, 11:04 AM
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If I live in DFW should I still look at leaving?
If you truly are miserable here, and have a negative experience day to day, are super frustrated with your schedule etc, then consider it. If you’re thinking about leaving because you’ve been told it’s ****ty here, on line or by a crusty CA…no way.
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Old 02-05-2023, 11:09 AM
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I guess the follow on question is SWA or AA? For argument sake let’s only consider narrowbody A/C since it’ll be 2050 before I could hold DFW WB CA.

Appreciate it fellas.
I would absolutely go AA, but I’m biased. I think I fit in better at AA, I live in a SWA hub, but pulled my app when I got on here in 2014, just didn’t really want to work there. I’m pretty happy here overall (usual caveats, we need some improvements, I sit LCR, so my schedule doesn’t get ****ed with). Take my opinion through that filter.
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Old 02-05-2023, 12:32 PM
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If you truly are miserable here, and have a negative experience day to day, are super frustrated with your schedule etc, then consider it. If you’re thinking about leaving because you’ve been told it’s ****ty here, on line or by a crusty CA…no way.
I start training on Monday, definitely not miserable. Just reading the boards and getting a second opinion. Living in DFW it seems the obvious choice. I have no desire to fly for Southwest.
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Old 02-05-2023, 03:35 PM
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I start training on Monday, definitely not miserable. Just reading the boards and getting a second opinion. Living in DFW it seems the obvious choice. I have no desire to fly for Southwest.
Friend of mine lives in DFW and left envoy early to go to United. Houston based and loves it. I asked him if he would consider applying to AA now that he no longer has the “wholly owned stench” he laughed and said absolutely not. He’s seen what AA is and what United is and would rather drive 3 hours than be a part of such a toxic environment. Take that for what it’s worth…
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Friend of mine lives in DFW and left envoy early to go to United. Houston based and loves it. I asked him if he would consider applying to AA now that he no longer has the “wholly owned stench” he laughed and said absolutely not. He’s seen what AA is and what United is and would rather drive 3 hours than be a part of such a toxic environment. Take that for what it’s worth…
Your friend worked at Envoy and now thinks that he worked at AA? Ok cool. Also, serious question dude. All of your advice is for everyone to run from AA. When are you going to take your own advice? This place is a big regional, No work rules, toxic culture etc, etc. These days you can submit an app everywhere and anywhere and get a call almost instantly, so that’s not an excuse. So when? When will you be leaving us? Genuine question.
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Old 02-05-2023, 03:55 PM
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He’s seen what AA is and what United is and would rather drive 3 hours than be a part of such a toxic environment. Take that for what it’s worth…
Your friend is an idiot. He has no idea what AA is like because he worked for Envoy. As a 737 CA in the most junior base, I've flown with tons of Envoy guys and they all tell me how night and day the environment is.
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Friend of mine lives in DFW and left envoy early to go to United. Houston based and loves it. I asked him if he would consider applying to AA now that he no longer has the “wholly owned stench” he laughed and said absolutely not. He’s seen what AA is and what United is and would rather drive 3 hours than be a part of such a toxic environment. Take that for what it’s worth…
I have a few friends doing the same. I'll take the 20 minute drive over the 4 hour.
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Old 02-05-2023, 07:34 PM
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🤣 love the internet tough guy comments. Calling someone an idiot who you’ve never met? Priceless. Listen, I’m just giving an anecdotal example from the one guy I kept in touch with from envoy who has obviously since left. Take it how you like. As for when I’m leaving AA…in about 30 years 😉
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Old 02-05-2023, 07:38 PM
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Friend of mine lives in DFW and left envoy early to go to United. Houston based and loves it. I asked him if he would consider applying to AA now that he no longer has the “wholly owned stench” he laughed and said absolutely not. He’s seen what AA is and what United is and would rather drive 3 hours than be a part of such a toxic environment. Take that for what it’s worth…
How do you drive from Dallas to Houston in 3 hours?
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Old 02-05-2023, 07:41 PM
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In a Miata, obviously.
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