Strike vote
04-01-2023, 04:53 AM
#42
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Originally Posted by biigD
Strike vote opens today, and of course we have another video from Isom. At least his jacket/sweater looks better this time.
04-01-2023, 05:28 AM
#43
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A strike vote outside of mediation is an incredible amount of leverage wasted. To the point of negligence on APA’s part.
Even if it’s 100% approved, Isom will go on the morning shows like Ed Bastian and say that APA is legally not permitted to strike. If the approval rate is bad, he’ll go on the morning shows and gloat.
and unlike Bastian, there is no mediator to punch him in the nuts for overstepping , and no good rebuttal from APA.
By time APA actually gets to mediation, the strike vote is at risk of becoming stale due to a limited shelf life. And that’s before months of prep and negotiating until the NMB even considers a proffer of arbitration.
Minimal upside and substantial downside. What in the world is APA doing?
Even if it’s 100% approved, Isom will go on the morning shows like Ed Bastian and say that APA is legally not permitted to strike. If the approval rate is bad, he’ll go on the morning shows and gloat.
and unlike Bastian, there is no mediator to punch him in the nuts for overstepping , and no good rebuttal from APA.
By time APA actually gets to mediation, the strike vote is at risk of becoming stale due to a limited shelf life. And that’s before months of prep and negotiating until the NMB even considers a proffer of arbitration.
Minimal upside and substantial downside. What in the world is APA doing?
Last edited by Giordano Bruno; 04-01-2023 at 05:42 AM.
04-01-2023, 05:30 AM
#44
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Originally Posted by Giordano Bruno
A strike vote outside of mediation is an incredible amount of leverage wasted. To the point of negligence on APA’s part.
Even if it’s 100% approved, Isom will go on the morning shows like Ed Bastian and say that APA is legally not permitted to strike.
and unlike Bastian, there is no mediator to punch him in the nuts for overstepping , and no good rebuttal from APA.
By time APA actually gets to mediation, the strike vote is at risk of becoming stale due to a limited shelf life. And that’s before months of prep and negotiating before the NMB even considers a proffer of arbitration.
What in the world is APA doing?
Even if it’s 100% approved, Isom will go on the morning shows like Ed Bastian and say that APA is legally not permitted to strike.
and unlike Bastian, there is no mediator to punch him in the nuts for overstepping , and no good rebuttal from APA.
By time APA actually gets to mediation, the strike vote is at risk of becoming stale due to a limited shelf life. And that’s before months of prep and negotiating before the NMB even considers a proffer of arbitration.
What in the world is APA doing?
04-01-2023, 05:57 AM
#46
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Joined APC: Mar 2008
Posts: 425
Originally Posted by Giordano Bruno
A strike vote outside of mediation is an incredible amount of leverage wasted. To the point of negligence on APA’s part.
Even if it’s 100% approved, Isom will go on the morning shows like Ed Bastian and say that APA is legally not permitted to strike. If the approval rate is bad, he’ll go on the morning shows and gloat.
and unlike Bastian, there is no mediator to punch him in the nuts for overstepping , and no good rebuttal from APA.
By time APA actually gets to mediation, the strike vote is at risk of becoming stale due to a limited shelf life. And that’s before months of prep and negotiating until the NMB even considers a proffer of arbitration.
Minimal upside and substantial downside. What in the world is APA doing?
Even if it’s 100% approved, Isom will go on the morning shows like Ed Bastian and say that APA is legally not permitted to strike. If the approval rate is bad, he’ll go on the morning shows and gloat.
and unlike Bastian, there is no mediator to punch him in the nuts for overstepping , and no good rebuttal from APA.
By time APA actually gets to mediation, the strike vote is at risk of becoming stale due to a limited shelf life. And that’s before months of prep and negotiating until the NMB even considers a proffer of arbitration.
Minimal upside and substantial downside. What in the world is APA doing?
04-01-2023, 08:17 AM
#48
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Originally Posted by Giordano Bruno
A strike vote outside of mediation is an incredible amount of leverage wasted. To the point of negligence on APA’s part.
Even if it’s 100% approved, Isom will go on the morning shows like Ed Bastian and say that APA is legally not permitted to strike.
Even if it’s 100% approved, Isom will go on the morning shows like Ed Bastian and say that APA is legally not permitted to strike.
Yes, the strike vote will embarrass Isom into going out there on the financial news channels, (and hopefully other news programs), to address the strike vote and the improbability of an actual strike. However, a strike vote WILL at least get Isom out there! Whereas filing for mediation will NOT cause Isom to publicly defend the stonewalling and prolonged labor negotiations that have driven employee morale, (and resulting customer service), into the dirt.
I’m sure Isom does not relish the opportunity to publicly explain/defend to investors (and the public) his inability to get labor contracts in place after 3 or 4 years.
Additionally, when Isom states his case publicly, it usually gives APA an opportunity for rebuttal, to state APA’s case publicly, countering the company’s narrative that pilots are just being greedy and it’s all about the money. We’ll have an opportunity to make the point that most of the sticking points are about scheduling, fatigue, safety, and quality of life wile suggesting that Isom is opposed to these things.
The strike vote was a good move by APA. Without knowing how close we are to an actual T.A., I can’t opine on whether or not filing for mediation is a good idea at this time.
Last edited by Slick111; 04-01-2023 at 08:35 AM.
04-01-2023, 01:15 PM
#50
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Originally Posted by Slick111
Gonna go ahead and disagree with you here.
Yes, the strike vote will embarrass Isom into going out there on the financial news channels, (and hopefully other news programs), to address the strike vote and the improbability of an actual strike. However, a strike vote WILL at least get Isom out there! Whereas filing for mediation will NOT cause Isom to publicly defend the stonewalling and prolonged labor negotiations that have driven employee morale, (and resulting customer service), into the dirt.
I’m sure Isom does not relish the opportunity to publicly explain/defend to investors (and the public) his inability to get labor contracts in place after 3 or 4 years.
Additionally, when Isom states his case publicly, it usually gives APA an opportunity for rebuttal, to state APA’s case publicly, countering the company’s narrative that pilots are just being greedy and it’s all about the money. We’ll have an opportunity to make the point that most of the sticking points are about scheduling, fatigue, safety, and quality of life wile suggesting that Isom is opposed to these things.
The strike vote was a good move by APA. Without knowing how close we are to an actual T.A., I can’t opine on whether or not filing for mediation is a good idea at this time.
Yes, the strike vote will embarrass Isom into going out there on the financial news channels, (and hopefully other news programs), to address the strike vote and the improbability of an actual strike. However, a strike vote WILL at least get Isom out there! Whereas filing for mediation will NOT cause Isom to publicly defend the stonewalling and prolonged labor negotiations that have driven employee morale, (and resulting customer service), into the dirt.
I’m sure Isom does not relish the opportunity to publicly explain/defend to investors (and the public) his inability to get labor contracts in place after 3 or 4 years.
Additionally, when Isom states his case publicly, it usually gives APA an opportunity for rebuttal, to state APA’s case publicly, countering the company’s narrative that pilots are just being greedy and it’s all about the money. We’ll have an opportunity to make the point that most of the sticking points are about scheduling, fatigue, safety, and quality of life wile suggesting that Isom is opposed to these things.
The strike vote was a good move by APA. Without knowing how close we are to an actual T.A., I can’t opine on whether or not filing for mediation is a good idea at this time.
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