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Old 03-13-2023, 08:40 AM
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I know periodically different groups, both independent and individual unions put out contract comparisons. Obviously the the independent ones are to inform and let pilots decide what might work best for them, where a union wants pilots to know what THEY already have and what everyone else has.

I saw an overview of the Delta contract and swore I saved it but can’t find it. Not sure if it was a link to an ALPA page or if someone like Aero Crew News had posted it.

Bottom line, is there anything out that compares what the AA contract HAS versus what Delta just voted in?
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AA is on the verge of bankruptcy, they could give you the moon in the next contract and it would mean absolutely nothing . Actually the closer they get to match DL rates the more scared I would be if worked for AA.
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AA is on the verge of bankruptcy, they could give you the moon in the next contract and it would mean absolutely nothing lol.
Lol, you are out to lunch. What’s your dealer’s number?
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AA is on the verge of bankruptcy, they could give you the moon in the next contract and it would mean absolutely nothing . Actually the closer they get to match DL rates the more scared I would be if worked for AA.
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7+ billion in incremental compensantion is exactly what AA needs right now lol
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7+ billion in incremental compensantion is exactly what AA needs right now lol
I guess you made your decision to stay at JetBlue? Are you trying to make yourself feel better of that choice?
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I’m still considering AA, but yeah the main reason why is taking so long to decide is the company being in big financial trouble. And what concerns me the most is your CEO openly stating his plan is to reduce 15B in debt by 2025 and raising operating costs by 7+B at the same time. But I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to offend anyone. AA is a dream airline for a lot of guys like me but unfortunately seems like nobody at the wheel.

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AA is on the verge of bankruptcy, they could give you the moon in the next contract and it would mean absolutely nothing . Actually the closer they get to match DL rates the more scared I would be if worked for AA.
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I’m still considering AA, but yeah the main reason why is taking so long to decide is the company being in big financial trouble. And what concerns me the most is your CEO openly stating his plan is to reduce 15B in debt by 2025 and raising operating costs by 7+B at the same time. But I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to offend anyone. AA is a dream airline for a lot of guys like me but unfortunately seems like nobody at the wheel.
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Originally Posted by Unablesorry
I’m still considering AA, but yeah the main reason why is taking so long to decide is the company being in big financial trouble. And what concerns me the most is your CEO openly stating his plan is to reduce 15B in debt by 2025 and raising operating costs by 7+B at the same time. But I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to offend anyone. AA is a dream airline for a lot of guys like me but unfortunately seems like nobody at the wheel.
So...

I'm not an AA guy (no dog in this fight).

But, outside of their debt, why exactly is AA in trouble? Can you be specific. Not throwing shade at all - just wondering the depths of your thoughts wrt corporate finance, etc.
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