APA has several email addresses, so you may get some of them but not the other. We’ve probably got 6-8 emails in the last week

 

A clarification email was sent yesterday after the voting instructions email that said that the vote had been set up by a third party and could not be canceled, but to ignore it.

For some reason you aren’t getting emails from APA. The voting instruction email did not come from them directly.

 

In one thread, and in no particular order, we get incredulous anger, pointlessness, confusion, frustration, humor (both good natured and mean spirited), miss-information, and good ole’ fashion information. And all on the first page!!! Up to you to decide where you fit in there. But as a forum junky, this is where it’s at! Well done, OP…. Well done.

 

I can picture a Colin Robinson feeding on threads like these.

 

that email wasn’t even from APA. That was from a third party company that is/will handle the vote.

 

I was riding the employee bus once and had an interesting conversation with a greybeard about whether or not we had pilots on furlough. There were well over 1,000 furloughed at the time, and he was adamant there wasn't any. He said, and this is a direct quote "If we had guys on furlough, my buddies would have told me".

There's letting emails slide while on vacay, and there's being completely checked out because you're untouchable and then doubling down and not recognizing it.

 

It came from

[email protected]

Road Shows and Membership Ratification Vote on Hold

The announcement of the United Agreement in Principle rendered our current Tentative Agreement (TA) un-ratifiable. We know it, you know it, and management knows it, too.

During American Airlines’ second-quarter earnings call on Thursday, Robert Isom and his team proudly touted our airline’s operational and financial performance and prospects for the future. Some of the journalists and analysts on hand asked Robert Isom about the status of our TA. His responses were very consistent – he reiterated his intention to “take care of our pilots” and “match the wages” in the United AIP. During his subsequent State of the Airline remarks, Robert Isom acknowledged his commitment to match wages including retroactive pay. Conspicuously absent from any of his comments: a commitment to adjust the work rules and quality-of-life provisions in the TA in a manner comparable to what Scott Kirby has committed to at United. Robert Isom confirmed his intentions with the proposal his team made and the video he issued to the membership on Friday afternoon.

We do not intend to move forward with a TA that simply adopts the economic aspects of the United AIP – and management’s proposal does not even do that in all respects. We have highlighted to management various quality-of-life and work-rule improvements that would bring us in line with our peers. Most of those items remain unaddressed in management’s most recent proposal. Apparently, Robert Isom’s idea of taking care of our pilots and ensuring parity with our peers at other airlines is that we will be paid comparably while working under more onerous work rules. That won’t fly.

Robert Isom said he wants pilots to “feel great about their jobs.” For that to happen, we need work rules that meaningfully improve our work-life balance and how we perform our job, and we want a management that recognizes our job is more than just the paycheck we receive for going to work. We firmly believe the time to fix our TA by including the necessary work-rule and quality-of-life enhancements is now. Your Board wants to get to a deal we can send to our membership for ratification. We believe management shares the same goal. Our Negotiating Committee is preparing to meet with its management counterparts in an effort to build on the proposal management offered on Friday to get it to the point where it can be approved and sent to the membership for a ratification vote. We believe there is a path to do that, one which should be accomplished in days, not weeks.

As you know, the ratification vote on the current TA is scheduled to open tomorrow, with Road Shows beginning on Tuesday. As noted above, all parties agree the current TA is not ratifiable. Consequently, we will not move forward with a ratification vote and Road Shows on the TA this week. We intend to continue our efforts to reach an amended TA that contains sufficient compensation, work rules, and quality-of-life enhancements comparable to those offered to our peers. Any modifications to the TA will not be done through a Letter of Agreement bypassing membership ratification. Every effort will be made to ensure the membership is the final authority.

We remain committed to delivering an amended TA that can be ratified by our membership. We call on management to join us in doing so as soon as possible.

In Unity,

 

Reminds me of 24yrs ago when riding the prospective employee bus to interview, there was me (pilot interviewee) and a FA interviewee on the bus. As we pulled up, I asked if she was there for AA or for an American Eagle interview. She replied "Well I don't know, is there a difference???"

I told her as we got off the bus, "Yes, don't have time to explain it to you, but if asked, you want to work at AA" She said "ok thanks for the advice" and never saw her again. Amazing to me that someone can be so uninformed while going to their own job interview.

 

"As previously announced, the APA Board of Directors voted yesterday to postpone the membership ratification vote on the Tentative Agreement. We are aware that a previously scheduled email went out this morning from our third-party vendor regarding the opening of the voting period. Please disregard that email. In accordance with the Board’s decision, the vote did not open this morning and the voting website is not accessible."
Mon 0930 from secretary treasurer@apa

 

This^^^. Nothing against the OP, but we have some seriously out of touch pilots. Thank goodness they pulled the vote. I was worried they would send the original TA (pre UAL) hoping we’d vote No…it would have passed.