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Old 03-04-2024, 07:21 AM
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American Airlines said Monday that it is ordering 260 new narrow-body jets, including dozens of Boeing’s long-delayed 737 Max 10.

The order includes 85 of Boeing’s 737 Max 10 planes and 85 of the Airbus A321neo, aircraft it says will help it upgauge on domestic and short-haul international routes. The Fort Worth, Texas-based airline is also ordering 90 Embraer E175 planes.

American said it would also convert orders for 30 Boeing 737 Max 8 planes, a model that is already a staple of its fleet, into the larger 737 Max 10s.

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Hopefully that translates to more hiring
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American Airlines said Monday that it is ordering 260 new narrow-body jets, including dozens of Boeing’s long-delayed 737 Max 10.

The order includes 85 of Boeing’s 737 Max 10 planes and 85 of the Airbus A321neo, aircraft it says will help it upgauge on domestic and short-haul international routes. The Fort Worth, Texas-based airline is also ordering 90 Embraer E175 planes.

American said it would also convert orders for 30 Boeing 737 Max 8 planes, a model that is already a staple of its fleet, into the larger 737 Max 10s.

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Isom quoted as saying the Max orders won’t be delivered until at least 2028.
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Anyone know what A/C for the additional 193 options?
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Anyone know what A/C for the additional 193 options?
43 of them are additional E175s, per Embraer press release…
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Originally Posted by 170Till5 View Post
American Airlines said Monday that it is ordering 260 new narrow-body jets, including dozens of Boeing’s long-delayed 737 Max 10.

The order includes 85 of Boeing’s 737 Max 10 planes and 85 of the Airbus A321neo, aircraft it says will help it upgauge on domestic and short-haul international routes. The Fort Worth, Texas-based airline is also ordering 90 Embraer E175 planes.

American said it would also convert orders for 30 Boeing 737 Max 8 planes, a model that is already a staple of its fleet, into the larger 737 Max 10s.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/04/amer....OpenExtension
We’re really not really competing with Delta or United, at least not how those two compete against each other. We’re more like Southwest with the legacy stamp.
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MAX-10's?

160 kt ref speeds coming in hot. Gear down flaps 40° on 20 mile final in CLT, taking last exit off runway, there goes your fuel savings.

Looks like the bigger MAXs suffer from the same thing the Airbus suffers from, lack of wing. So they'll also be stuck in the upper 20's / lower 30's.
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MAX-10's?

160 kt ref speeds coming in hot. Gear down flaps 40° on 20 mile final in CLT, taking last exit off runway, there goes your fuel savings.

Looks like the bigger MAXs suffer from the same thing the Airbus suffers from, lack of wing. So they'll also be stuck in the upper 20's / lower 30's.
I suspect CASM was the determining factor over runway exit, cruise altitudes and noisy finals.

There’s not a few 70,000+ hour 321’s that will probably need to be put to pasture in the not so distant future.
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We’re really not really competing with Delta or United, at least not how those two compete against each other. We’re more like Southwest with the legacy stamp.
We are derisking. Not as sexy as UA's mega widebody growth plan, but it's definitely a safer and more reilable strategy.
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MAX-10's?

160 kt ref speeds coming in hot. Gear down flaps 40° on 20 mile final in CLT, taking last exit off runway, there goes your fuel savings.

Looks like the bigger MAXs suffer from the same thing the Airbus suffers from, lack of wing. So they'll also be stuck in the upper 20's / lower 30's.
You should let Delta and United management know this as well.

The good thing is nobody is going to force you to bid the 737. I know I have zero desire to fly a MAX10.
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