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Beech Dude 06-26-2025 03:35 AM


Originally Posted by BusBoi (Post 3923264)
How are trips assigned? Is it seniority or credit-balanced/first in-first out?
When scheduling is covering open time the day prior, trips are awarded (ie when a pilot asks for it) in seniority order and assigned in reverse seniority; meaning junior to senior. If a trip comes up outside of the normal coverage window (1000-1500 daily) trips are assigned by days worked; meaning a senior guy who has worked 2 days will get assigned a trip before a junior guy who has worked 6.

At my current airline a pairing is assigned to the most junior pilot who is legal and available, unless a senior pilot preferenced "call me first". Only after a reserve has accumulated credit to min guarantee do they start assigning based on credit.

Also, it sounds like if you live local and don't want to work the method is to bid short call. Is that correct?
Yes. This is one prevalent technique. Of course, when you're junior, you'll work more, we all know the deal, its just how it works. However, short call, even for junior folks seems ok on average. The company is getting more efficient with reserves and LC gets worked way more (kinda the point like it or not) and SC is for the pop-ups (weather, short notice sick, diverts, etc.) I've seen months where very junior bubbas on SC don't even work 7 days while guys senior to them that are on LC are working 15 and hitting the 85 hr max.

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JulesWinfield 06-26-2025 04:15 AM


Originally Posted by Beech Dude (Post 3923327)
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I believe awards are given before assignments, even outside of DOTC, so if a senior pilot passes all and gets it awarded, the trip will still go to the junior pilot.

tallpilot 06-26-2025 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3923334)
I believe awards are given before assignments, even outside of DOTC, so if a senior pilot passes all and gets it awarded, the trip will still go to the junior pilot.

This is correct.

ImSoSuss 06-26-2025 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by Beech Dude (Post 3923327)
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Although technically true it is not how it ends up working in reality because the senior pilot can just select pass all (and they all do outside of DOTC). So it is very similar to Spirit's method.

rolo 06-26-2025 01:43 PM

How does fatigue work on reserve if you’re already above guarantee but a report is non operational? I assumed they just dock the reserve guarantee, which doesn’t matter if you’re over it, but the rep on the phone made it sound now like there’s a legit pay cut, which would be insulting to my decision to stay safe.

JulesWinfield 06-26-2025 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by rolo (Post 3923516)
How does fatigue work on reserve if you’re already above guarantee but a report is non operational? I assumed they just dock the reserve guarantee, which doesn’t matter if you’re over it, but the rep on the phone made it sound now like there’s a legit pay cut, which would be insulting to my decision to stay safe.

In this instance, it’s best to call the CP and try to get an EO instead of fatigue call.

rolo 06-26-2025 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3923518)
In this instance, it’s best to call the CP and try to get an EO instead of fatigue call.

You mean before the fact? It was 1am…

Fichael80 06-26-2025 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by rolo (Post 3923522)
You mean before the fact? It was 1am…

Call the duty pilot. Available 24/7 and ask for EO in lieu of fatigue. They charge you vacation from next years bank and you can buy it back in January if you want to. Otherwise if fatigue is ruled non-operational the CP will call you and ask if you want to dock the 4.03 or 4.13 (LC / SC) from your paycheck, use sick bank, or use vacation to pay for it.

rolo 06-26-2025 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by Fichael80 (Post 3923548)
Call the duty pilot. Available 24/7 and ask for EO in lieu of fatigue. They charge you vacation from next years bank and you can buy it back in January if you want to. Otherwise if fatigue is ruled non-operational the CP will call you and ask if you want to dock the 4.03 or 4.13 (LC / SC) from your paycheck, use sick bank, or use vacation to pay for it.

Oh shoot yeah I’ll hit up the duty pilot next time. Thanks for the heads up. If it’s just the 4 hours I’ll take it as a learning moment and move on. Kinda stinks to get dinged but I’m over it.

GhettoJet 07-01-2025 12:01 PM

[QUOTE]trips are assigned by days worked; meaning a senior guy who has worked 2 days will get assigned a trip before a junior guy who has worked 6.

At my current airline a pairing is assigned to the most junior pilot who is legal and available, unless a senior pilot preferenced "call me first". [/QUOTE]

The way it works at your current airline is the way it used to work. The bold text is the way it works now.


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