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LearJetRadek 12-24-2025 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3985033)
It is ironic that you went off on the Spirit forum how everyone should be leaving because they will be out of business any day

And where was I wrong?

CincoDeMayo 12-24-2025 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by LearJetRadek (Post 3985042)
And where was I wrong?

Aviation is a small world Mr Avelo…it’s a small world.

Merry Christmas.

LearJetRadek 12-24-2025 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3985058)
Aviation is a small world Mr Avelo…it’s a small world.

Merry Christmas.

Ok.............. Good day

HPIC 12-27-2025 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3984987)
A large percentage of those spirit guys were captains, too. So you’re probably looking at 3k TT and 500 TPIC minimum to be competitive. The good news is that we’re supposed to keep the hiring train going.

I, personally, would like to see a minimum requirement of 1,000PIC in a transport category jet to be hired…but, alas, the hiring team doesn’t ask my opinion.

AA717driver 12-29-2025 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by HPIC (Post 3985698)
I, personally, would like to see a minimum requirement of 1,000PIC in a transport category jet to be hired…but, alas, the hiring team doesn’t ask my opinion.

You’re overlooking a lot of quality people who are flying at fracs. I fly with a lot of younger pilots who are really sharp. Hire the person, not the resume. Yeah, I know, HR loves their “profile”.

HPIC 01-01-2026 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by AA717driver (Post 3986402)
You’re overlooking a lot of quality people who are flying at fracs. I fly with a lot of younger pilots who are really sharp. Hire the person, not the resume. Yeah, I know, HR loves their “profile”.

I’m pretty sure that most, if not all, jets used by fracs are transport category, so your point is moot.

”Hire the person, not the resume” might have worked back in the days of extended interviews, sim checks, etc…but in the day of 30 minute(or less) interviews with nothing but canned questions that anybody with access to google can find out well ahead of time…not so much. It’s frightening to see the quality of some new pilots coming in the door these days.

AllYourBaseAreB 01-01-2026 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by HPIC (Post 3987270)
I’m pretty sure that most, if not all, jets used by fracs are transport category, so your point is moot.

”Hire the person, not the resume” might have worked back in the days of extended interviews, sim checks, etc…but in the day of 30 minute(or less) interviews with nothing but canned questions that anybody with access to google can find out well ahead of time…not so much. It’s frightening to see the quality of some new pilots coming in the door these days.

frightening where? Im in a junior base and most of the new hires are great, with only 1 being truly mediocre

SkyGodKing 01-01-2026 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by HPIC (Post 3987270)
I’m pretty sure that most, if not all, jets used by fracs are transport category, so your point is moot.

”Hire the person, not the resume” might have worked back in the days of extended interviews, sim checks, etc…but in the day of 30 minute(or less) interviews with nothing but canned questions that anybody with access to google can find out well ahead of time…not so much. It’s frightening to see the quality of some new pilots coming in the door these days.

I'll take a newhire over some of these geriatrics we have flying around who do things drop the gear 20 miles out.

ImSoSuss 01-01-2026 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by SkyGodKing (Post 3987292)
I'll take a newhire over some of these geriatrics we have flying around who do things drop the gear 20 miles out.

I know right, like 240 knots under 10,000 feet! wtf is with these people???

joepilot50 01-01-2026 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by SkyGodKing (Post 3987292)
I'll take a newhire over some of these geriatrics we have flying around who do things drop the gear 20 miles out.

I’ve seen more gear down flaps 15 at 6000’ from new hires than senior captains when I was an FO.

But I blame the training department more than them. They get programmed to do that in the sim world in a controlled environment where they are in a position where glidepath at roughly 1 dot to drop the gear and go flaps 15 makes sense. Or discouraged to use or not shown flaps 10 is usually more than enough to hold 170-180 knots while descending down on the path when flaps 5 can’t hold it so they drop the gear and flaps 15 it instead at 5000’.



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