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Thumper7 12-22-2025 10:51 AM

Letting Eagle walk all over American Pilots
 
Just wanted to highlight an item to anyone considering coming to AA. American Eagle regional wholly owned pilots have the same non rev (D2) priority as mainline AA pilots. Everything is priority by time of check in. We have priority for the jumpseat on our own aircraft of course, but a PSA/Piedmont/Envoy pilot or employee can beat a 35+ year AA captain for a non rev (D2) seat in the back on their own metal! This would be laughable to Delta pilots who protect their own. Delta Connection pilots do not receive any benefit to this level, not to mention they also never receive profit sharing. I find that AA/APA has a total push over attitude towards fighting for their own pilot group. This is not an attack on the regional folks, just an observation that we readily allow our benefits to be diluted compared to other legacy pilot groups.

WiFly 12-22-2025 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by Thumper7 (Post 3984201)
Just wanted to highlight an item to anyone considering coming to AA. American Eagle regional wholly owned pilots have the same non rev (D2) priority as mainline AA pilots. Everything is priority by time of check in. We have priority for the jumpseat on our own aircraft of course, but a PSA/Piedmont/Envoy pilot or employee can beat a 35+ year AA captain for a non rev (D2) seat in the back on their own metal! This would be laughable to Delta pilots who protect their own. Delta Connection pilots do not receive any benefit to this level, not to mention they also never receive profit sharing. I find that AA/APA has a total push over attitude towards fighting for their own pilot group. This is not an attack on the regional folks, just an observation that we readily allow our benefits to be diluted compared to other legacy pilot groups.

I think I can speak for most AA pilots when I say this is a non-issue.

VacancyBid 12-22-2025 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by Thumper7 (Post 3984201)
Just wanted to highlight an item to anyone considering coming to AA. American Eagle regional wholly owned pilots have the same non rev (D2) priority as mainline AA pilots. Everything is priority by time of check in. We have priority for the jumpseat on our own aircraft of course, but a PSA/Piedmont/Envoy pilot or employee can beat a 35+ year AA captain for a non rev (D2) seat in the back on their own metal! This would be laughable to Delta pilots who protect their own. Delta Connection pilots do not receive any benefit to this level, not to mention they also never receive profit sharing. I find that AA/APA has a total push over attitude towards fighting for their own pilot group. This is not an attack on the regional folks, just an observation that we readily allow our benefits to be diluted compared to other legacy pilot groups.

True but misleading. EVERYONE on AA is time of checkin. A 4th day mainline toilet cleaner can beat a 78th year A&P because it's time of checkin for everyone.

And AA treats mainline and wholly owned as one employee group - pilots, FA's rampers, dispatchers, whatever. This isn't some special vendetta against mainline pilots.

Hardcharger 12-22-2025 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by Thumper7 (Post 3984201)
Just wanted to highlight an item to anyone considering coming to AA. American Eagle regional wholly owned pilots have the same non rev (D2) priority as mainline AA pilots. Everything is priority by time of check in. We have priority for the jumpseat on our own aircraft of course, but a PSA/Piedmont/Envoy pilot or employee can beat a 35+ year AA captain for a non rev (D2) seat in the back on their own metal! This would be laughable to Delta pilots who protect their own. Delta Connection pilots do not receive any benefit to this level, not to mention they also never receive profit sharing. I find that AA/APA has a total push over attitude towards fighting for their own pilot group. This is not an attack on the regional folks, just an observation that we readily allow our benefits to be diluted compared to other legacy pilot groups.

If it went down as you said, and you, or whoever you're referring to, was looking for a seat in the back, whether they're an Eagle employee, or mainline doesnt matter. If it's an Eagle flight, and you have a Mainline employee and an Eagle employee list as the same priority, whoever checked in first is going to get the seat in the back. The only way that somebody with a lesser priority status listing than you referred to would be if it's a contract regional carrier (Republic or SkyWest), at which time, I think their employees would get cabin priority over AA or Eagle employees, regardless of priority list status.

If you're referring to a jumpseat situation, the Eagle pilots have to get some type of advantage on Eagle flights, similarly to how we can reserve the jumpseat. You get a PSA flight and it's a Mainline pilot and an Envoy or Piedmont pilot trying to get the jumpseat, the Envoy or Piedmont pilots are going to get the priority because it's an Eagle operated flight. This only applies to flights operated by PSA, Piedmont, or Envoy. Eagle isn't "walking over" anybody. That's a bone that got thrown their way a long time ago, and rightfully so.

ClncClarence 12-22-2025 11:21 AM

Who cares.

Out of the 1000 things I GAS about with respect to this job, I’d put this at about #987.

If me and/or my family really need to be somewhere we make more than enough money to buy tickets.

Any pilot who choses an airline based on
non-rev benefits is a fool, plain and simple.

Thumper7 12-22-2025 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by WiFly (Post 3984206)
I think I can speak for most AA pilots when I say this is a non-issue.

Truly we have a battered wife syndrome or something here. Hey, buddy, they arent your company. You probably flowed I know, but do you understand that? And they can beat you for a seat on your own metal.

JulesWinfield 12-22-2025 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by Thumper7 (Post 3984217)
Truly we have a battered wife syndrome or something here. Hey, buddy, they arent your company. You probably flowed I know, but do you understand that? And they can beat you for a seat on your own metal.

You have a guaranteed jumpseat my man.

Thumper7 12-22-2025 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by ClncClarence (Post 3984214)
Who cares.

Out of the 1000 things I GAS about with respect to this job, I’d put this at about #987.

If me and/or my family really need to be somewhere we make more than enough money to buy tickets.

Any pilot who choses an airline based on
non-rev benefits is a fool, plain and simple.

Absolute push over. “Who cares”. This is literally my point. Its just pathetic

Cleared4appch 12-22-2025 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by Thumper7 (Post 3984201)
Just wanted to highlight an item to anyone considering coming to AA. American Eagle regional wholly owned pilots have the same non rev (D2) priority as mainline AA pilots. Everything is priority by time of check in. We have priority for the jumpseat on our own aircraft of course, but a PSA/Piedmont/Envoy pilot or employee can beat a 35+ year AA captain for a non rev (D2) seat in the back on their own metal! This would be laughable to Delta pilots who protect their own. Delta Connection pilots do not receive any benefit to this level, not to mention they also never receive profit sharing. I find that AA/APA has a total push over attitude towards fighting for their own pilot group. This is not an attack on the regional folks, just an observation that we readily allow our benefits to be diluted compared to other legacy pilot groups.

I have never heard of this being an issue. You’re making it sound like it happens on the regular.

Maybe you should head over to delta with that mindset? You’d fit in great over there. Then you can stomp on the lowly RJ pilots and squash them like roaches to your heart’s content.

ClncClarence 12-22-2025 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by Thumper7 (Post 3984219)
Its just pathetic

Consensus seems to be pretty clear what the pathetic part of this conversation is.


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