Originally Posted by Thumper7 (Post 3984201)

Just wanted to highlight an item to anyone considering coming to AA. American Eagle regional wholly owned pilots have the same non rev (D2) priority as mainline AA pilots. Everything is priority by time of check in. We have priority for the jumpseat on our own aircraft of course, but a PSA/Piedmont/Envoy pilot or employee can beat a 35+ year AA captain for a non rev (D2) seat in the back on their own metal! This would be laughable to Delta pilots who protect their own. Delta Connection pilots do not receive any benefit to this level, not to mention they also never receive profit sharing. I find that AA/APA has a total push over attitude towards fighting for their own pilot group. This is not an attack on the regional folks, just an observation that we readily allow our benefits to be diluted compared to other legacy pilot groups.

Originally Posted by Thumper7 (Post 3984251)

What i want the readers to take from this thread is that I and other AA pilots have lost rides home to regional pilots for seats on our own metal due to it all being based on time of check in and Eagle pilots get the same priority outside of the jumpseat. And alot of my fellow pilots just say, “eh who cares”. Talk to your friends at Delta and ask if they would ever lose a seat to a Connection pilot. The AA pilot group is toothless when it comes to stuff like this.

Originally Posted by Cleared4appch (Post 3984366)

And again, there are several solutions to this, 1) move to base being the most important thing, 2) check in more proactively, but I realize as a commuter myself that’s not always possible, or, 3) fill out an app for delta. Just understand at places like delta, you will be junior for quite a long time which means lots of senior dudes could easily bump you last minute. Something to think about. I’ve talked to several delta guys that say they wish they had what AA has for non rev privileges.

Originally Posted by Strykerinf (Post 3984322)

I commute from a notoriously rough place to MIA and never have any issues with “check in time”… just bid your schedule accordingly. If an eagle guy beats me to it on my own metal when I forgot to list, that’s on me. It’s fair system. What’s not fair is the AA people who list for multiple JSs at one tim and then come to find out they are listed as a D1 on an eagle flight.

Originally Posted by nene (Post 3984424)

It's weird.....it's almost like the bottom 30% like time of checkin and the top 30% enjoy a seniority based system.

Originally Posted by Thumper7 (Post 3984201)

Just wanted to highlight an item to anyone considering coming to AA. American Eagle regional wholly owned pilots have the same non rev (D2) priority as mainline AA pilots. Everything is priority by time of check in. We have priority for the jumpseat on our own aircraft of course, but a PSA/Piedmont/Envoy pilot or employee can beat a 35+ year AA captain for a non rev (D2) seat in the back on their own metal! This would be laughable to Delta pilots who protect their own. Delta Connection pilots do not receive any benefit to this level, not to mention they also never receive profit sharing. I find that AA/APA has a total push over attitude towards fighting for their own pilot group. This is not an attack on the regional folks, just an observation that we readily allow our benefits to be diluted compared to other legacy pilot groups.

Originally Posted by Otterbox (Post 3984552)

This is what happens when they’re all AAG employees. Pilots can be beat out by gate agents and baggage handlers from the Wholly Owned also. Even the part time bag slingers whose mom got them a job at an outstation.