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AAdvocate 04-18-2026 03:42 AM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 4024785)
I’m saying that some “leaked” slide of AA de-hubing ORD did not make Isom grow ORD by hundreds of flights. I’m also saying that it wasn’t “petty” that UA responded to AA by also adding flights.

I didn’t look into the details of the flight cuts so I won’t comment on that. Whatever comes of it, management will manage and I’ll fly the metal.

Some of you guys get wrapped all around the axel about Kirby. Anyone that goes against whatever narrative is popular at AA for the day is a “Kirbylite”. It’s just strange.

All this is business, not personal. As pilots, we’re all on the same side. Yet, some of yall make bashing UA, Kirby and UA pilots a personality trait. Relax, gents. It’s not that serious

Who is taking this personal? Kirby started this by trying to dehub American by stealing their gates with his backroom deal with the city of Chicago. 100% on your golden boy here. He wanted to dehub AA and it was United is the Who added flIghts first, forcing AA to respond in kind. You're just looking one step back when this started several steps.ago. invite you to do some research.

sn00p 04-18-2026 04:20 AM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 4007703)
I don’t know why you are celebrating….AA mainline barely flies out of Chicago.


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 4024785)
I’m saying that some “leaked” slide of AA de-hubing ORD did not make Isom grow ORD by hundreds of flights. I’m also saying that it wasn’t “petty” that UA responded to AA by also adding flights.

I didn’t look into the details of the flight cuts so I won’t comment on that. Whatever comes of it, management will manage and I’ll fly the metal.

Some of you guys get wrapped all around the axel about Kirby. Anyone that goes against whatever narrative is popular at AA for the day is a “Kirbylite”. It’s just strange.

All this is business, not personal. As pilots, we’re all on the same side. Yet, some of yall make bashing UA, Kirby and UA pilots a personality trait. Relax, gents. It’s not that serious

The above quote is just one instance of a UA pilot bashing AA in this very thread for no reason.

Anyone who takes anything personally on this site definitely needs to touch grass. However, the idiom don’t dish it out if you can’t take it comes to mind.

Kirby has played a loud and boastful tune that some take to heart, including bashing other airlines openly.

I’m also glad AA management is not boasting about this win, because I know UAL management would be cringe and bashful had the outcome turned out differently.

SoFloFlyer 04-18-2026 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by AAdvocate (Post 4024802)
Who is taking this personal? Kirby started this by trying to dehub American by stealing their gates with his backroom deal with the city of Chicago. 100% on your golden boy here. He wanted to dehub AA and it was United is the Who added flIghts first, forcing AA to respond in kind. You're just looking one step back when this started several steps.ago. invite you to do some research.

Some of yall certainly sound like it’s personal. Like the guy slept with your wife or something. Kirby can’t be mentioned in a sentence without it being attached to cross-dressing, using tampons, or being trans. I get it, the guy is boastful, but he shouldn’t live rent in your head.

I also get what you’re saying about UA adding flights first. However, the UnitedNext plan was to grow in all of the hubs. ORD is unique that 2 carriers call it a hub and how the airport allocates the gates (this pre-dates the turf war). UA was always going to grow ORD which would’ve forced AA to respond. Again, it wasn’t out of pettiness, it was planned from the inception of UnitedNext. Should a company not grow and expand because another company would hate it?

SoFloFlyer 04-18-2026 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by sn00p (Post 4024804)
The above quote is just one instance of a UA pilot bashing AA in this very thread for no reason.

Anyone who takes anything personally on this site definitely needs to touch grass. However, the idiom don’t dish it out if you can’t take it comes to mind.

Kirby has played a loud and boastful tune that some take to heart, including bashing other airlines openly.

I’m also glad AA management is not boasting about this win, because I know UAL management would be cringe and bashful had the outcome turned out differently.

Yeah, I won’t speak for anyone. I don’t get why some people do that. Kirby is boastful. He admitted to it as well and followed up with other CEOs are too, he just does it publicly. For better or for worse, CEOs are all cut from similar cloths. I guess you have to be if you’re gonna run any Fortune 500 company. I accept it as a reality of life. Kinda like taxes and death. Doesn’t mean o agree with it, but it is what it is

CRJCapitan 04-18-2026 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 4024828)
Yeah, I won’t speak for anyone. I don’t get why some people do that. Kirby is boastful. He admitted to it as well and followed up with other CEOs are too, he just does it publicly.

The ironic thing is it almost definitely led to a worse outcome for United in Chicago. I'm not even sure the gate allocation strategy was even on AA's radar until UA management started bragging about all the gates it was getting, all the flights it was adding and that AA would eventually be force to de hub ORD. If AA wasn't paying attention before, it definitely was after.

Now it looks like AA will be getting some gates back next year. Funny how things work out sometimes.

SoFloFlyer 04-18-2026 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by CRJCapitan (Post 4024836)
The ironic thing is it almost definitely led to a worse outcome for United in Chicago. I'm not even sure the gate allocation strategy was even on AA's radar until UA management started bragging about all the gates it was getting, all the flights it was adding and that AA would eventually be force to de hub ORD. If AA wasn't paying attention before, it definitely was after.

Now it looks like AA will be getting some gates back next year. Funny how things work out sometimes.

I don’t totally disagree with you, but I will add that AA had to have known about the losing gates with or without the boastfulness of SK

AAdvocate 04-18-2026 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 4024895)
I don’t totally disagree with you, but I will add that AA had to have known about the losing gates with or without the boastfulness of SK

Trust me, none of us here will vouch for the competency of our management.

Pilot X 04-18-2026 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 4024895)
I don’t totally disagree with you, but I will add that AA had to have known about the losing gates with or without the boastfulness of SK

You do know that you are talking about the airline that lost JFK slots because they forgot about them right? 😂

Bigpimppilot 04-20-2026 05:38 PM

It’s my belief Kirby and his wife got their cheeks done by the same plastic surgeon.

ps2sunvalley 04-20-2026 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by AAdvocate (Post 4024802)
Who is taking this personal? Kirby started this by trying to dehub American by stealing their gates with his backroom deal with the city of Chicago. 100% on your golden boy here. He wanted to dehub AA and it was United is the Who added flIghts first, forcing AA to respond in kind. You're just looking one step back when this started several steps.ago. invite you to do some research.

Tell me more about the backroom deal.


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