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SoFloFlyer 04-15-2026 11:01 PM


Originally Posted by HPIC (Post 4023949)
What is the JS policy at United? First come first serve? By DOH? I admittedly know very little about jumpseating…I drive to work. It’s a few hour drive, but I never get bumped and my ride never leaves without me. Thankful for that.

It’s based on seniority until about 15 prior to departure. Some guys don’t list until they get to the airport which then bumps someone off. Generally speaking, the pilot group does a good job at listing ahead of time so everyone can plan accordingly.

Personally, I prefer how Delta does it and it sounds like it’s the same way here. FCFS is fair and keeps some guys from bumping you off after you already put your bags up.

MaxThrust1 04-16-2026 02:42 AM


Originally Posted by HPIC (Post 4023949)
What is the JS policy at United? First come first serve? By DOH? I admittedly know very little about jumpseating…I drive to work. It’s a few hour drive, but I never get bumped and my ride never leaves without me. Thankful for that.

Mainline is DOH

Exclusive UAX carrier (GoJet, Commutair) is DOH

Non-exclusive UAX (SkyWest, republic, etc) is time of check in

Beech Dude 04-16-2026 03:34 AM

So anyone know if this huge AAnouncement happened? I haven't seen anything...

joepilot50 04-16-2026 04:28 AM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 4023968)
It’s based on seniority until about 15 prior to departure. Some guys don’t list until they get to the airport which then bumps someone off. Generally speaking, the pilot group does a good job at listing ahead of time so everyone can plan accordingly.

Personally, I prefer how Delta does it and it sounds like it’s the same way here. FCFS is fair and keeps some guys from bumping you off after you already put your bags up.

Yep it's FCFS here with the JS being bookable starting 8 days out to that flight.

The JS is yours at that point only able to be bumped for fed, check pilot doing a line check, and weight restriction( needs to be in the BOW......). Though if only one JS listed, still have the 2nd JS in the bus and torture seat in the newer Max's.

Though we have our own JS issues that need to be fixed outside of the JS being in the BOW. Which is mainly a PSA person able to bump us off an Envoy JS.


Originally Posted by Beech Dude (Post 4024003)
So anyone know if this huge AAnouncement happened? I haven't seen anything...

Being 2-3 years late on a trend.

SoFloFlyer 04-16-2026 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by joepilot50 (Post 4024016)
Yep it's FCFS here with the JS being bookable starting 8 days out to that flight.

The JS is yours at that point only able to be bumped for fed, check pilot doing a line check, and weight restriction( needs to be in the BOW......). Though if only one JS listed, still have the 2nd JS in the bus and torture seat in the newer Max's.

Though we have our own JS issues that need to be fixed outside of the JS being in the BOW. Which is mainly a PSA person able to bump us off an Envoy JS.



Being 2-3 years late on a trend.

Interesting. A jumpseater cannot be kicked off for weight restriction. At least not on mainline, UAX is different story

joepilot50 04-16-2026 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 4024108)
Interesting. A jumpseater cannot be kicked off for weight restriction. At least not on mainline, UAX is different story

We have a mechanism where we can use taxi fuel to account for a jumpseater to get them on, but if an FA checked in first, they get the cabin JS and flight deck JS gets left behind. APA grieved it, but arbitrator made a stupid ruling despite the fact the section of the contract was, " Fuel burn for flight deck jumpseat", but the language in the section itself didn't reference only the flight deck jumpseat.

APA got burned by language again and another item that pits pilots and FA's against each other. Not sure how many CA's will utilize this mechanism if they realize the FA will get the FA JS and the Flight deck JS gets left behind......

It's nice that you guys got the JS's included into the BOW. We need to do the same.

AAL24 04-16-2026 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by Beech Dude (Post 4024003)
So anyone know if this huge AAnouncement happened? I haven't seen anything...

it was the trading cards.

Lou Stool 04-16-2026 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by joepilot50 (Post 4024016)
Though we have our own JS issues that need to be fixed outside of the JS being in the BOW. Which is mainly a PSA person able to bump us off an Envoy JS.

What's the problem with this? We get to reserve the jumpseat on mainline flights. The three WOs can't reserve the jumpseat, so this is their equivalent, if you want to call it that.

SoFloFlyer 04-16-2026 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by joepilot50 (Post 4024120)
We have a mechanism where we can use taxi fuel to account for a jumpseater to get them on, but if an FA checked in first, they get the cabin JS and flight deck JS gets left behind. APA grieved it, but arbitrator made a stupid ruling despite the fact the section of the contract was, " Fuel burn for flight deck jumpseat", but the language in the section itself didn't reference only the flight deck jumpseat.

APA got burned by language again and another item that pits pilots and FA's against each other. Not sure how many CA's will utilize this mechanism if they realize the FA will get the FA JS and the Flight deck JS gets left behind......

It's nice that you guys got the JS's included into the BOW. We need to do the same.

Man, that’s unfortunate. I hope you guys get language that favors including jumpseaters in the BOW.

Flight deck and cabin JS are included in the BOW which is a game changer for a ton of commuters. Can you guys occupy a cabin JS if no FAs list for it?

RippinClapBombs 04-16-2026 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 4024256)
Man, that’s unfortunate. I hope you guys get language that favors including jumpseaters in the BOW.

Flight deck and cabin JS are included in the BOW which is a game changer for a ton of commuters. Can you guys occupy a cabin JS if no FAs list for it?

What’s unfortunate is showing up to the airport not knowing if you’re getting the JS until 15 mins prior to departure. All the extra planning and stress and wasted time at the airport sucks. I hope we get language that favors BOW including jumpseaters but it is extremely rare to have a JS removed from the flight deck, especially with a large Airbus fleet, and it would not be a “game changer”. It should be a very low priority in the next contract negotiations.


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