You don't appear to be interested in what's best for AA, you appear to want Horton to stay in power.

I'd love to hear why you think Horton's plan of not merging until later is better than merging now? Who gains from that? Does that really make AA stronger ASAP?

I do indeed want Horton to stay at the top. He has been the CEO less than six months, but I believe he does have a strong vision for the future of AA. Plus, he's just isn't the kind of guy who'd form a tryst in the middle of the night, while neglecting his own team as Mr. Parker and Mr Kirby have done and continue to do.

The US guys aren't pilot aren't even allowed in the room let alone at the table. That's certainly not the kind of place I want to be.

Loyalty, duty and honor are NOT traits of convenience.

Diehard AAer for life and proud of it.

Cheers :)

Tomahawk will you quit if Horton is out?

[QUOTE=captfred;1187703]Tomahawk will you quit if Horton is out?[/

I will retire at 65 which will be in 10.5 years for me. Thanks for asking.

Things just keep getting better with the APA. This is a cut and paste from another forum. It appears the APA leadership and Mr Parker are right at home in doing back room dealings:

"Well, now that the details have been released about the T/A with LCC management, efforts are underway to stop the TA in its current form in its tracks.

On May 7th, in closed session, the APA leadership unceremoniously stripped the APA membership from their right to vote on any new TA's.

This only came public a short while ago.

As the details, or "Term Sheet" were made public, due to many "no way in hell" aspects of the TA, members have voiced their opposition to the deal.

While over 7500 pilots signed a "No confidence in AMR management" petition, many were shell shocked that they lots their right to vote on the agreement.

Efforts are underway to overturn the boards actions in removing individuals rights to vote.. We are within the 100 day abeyance period to do so and a formal campaign is being finalized."

I'm sure the TA would have passed... (sarcasm intended). I do feel bad the APA is hampering your efforts to sell out all the junior guys.

T58 -

Horton's plan - 1420 less pilots by 2014(court testimony)

Parker's plan - keep all the pilots.


What "strong vision" are you thinking of?

That isn't what the US with APA says! In fact, there is no furlough protection in the term sheet for the US folks and a promise that an attempt will be made. But hey, this is only about what's good for the APA. The pilots are the only ones who matter here.....got it.

Wow, I'm usually a lurker on these boards, but feel compelled to comment...-I went through all the fun and games of the DL/NWA SLI merger (DL side)....I have seen a lot of cool-aid drinking/ management apologists on the DL side over my 26 year career....but I have never seen the likes of Mr. Tomahawk here....wow....He makes the worst cool-aid drinker I ever saw at Delta look like....Abbie Hoffman by comparison....It's kind of frightening to think he actually could be an AA pilot....not likely though...:eek:

Wiggy,

You've been at DAL 26 years which is admirable. Why did you choose DAL 26 years ago?

I admit whole-heatedly to drinking AA cool aid. It's my company, and it's been a great career with a few hiccups over course of my 23+ years here, but there isn't another airline I'd choose to work for. How's that for loyalty! I suspect you feel the same pride in Delta.



I'm an AAmerican after all and proud to be so :).