From our ex SFO base chair
08-03-2012, 11:56 AM
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From our ex SFO base chair
That's right, in case you forgot AA closed the pilot SFO base to get rid of 2 base chair/vice chair votes.
Displacing hundreds of pilots to LAX. Have fun commuting.
Oh what? They left the FA's based in SFO? True.
What are they currently offering the FA's?
3% pay raise
15% profit sharing
150% premium pay
FA's are paid the same regardless of what airplane they fly
Early out retirement payout of $40,000 US dollars if 15 yrs of service completed
FA's making same pay as A-319 FO's if FA is on premium pay
Here's what the former SFO base chair had to say:
Finally irrefutable proof that pilot contractual standards are not the same as, nor tied to, any other non-pilot employee contracts. UALs TA has correctly reset the bar. Before the weak-kneed scream "...but we're in BK!" - that does not mean we must or should surrender our contract for the next decade. AMR will be out of BK very soon and making money hand over fist. BK is a temporary condition requiring very temporary solutions as we move to longer term structure. The "provisions" (don't even suggest it's real language) of the proposed AA/APA TA extracts unacceptable value from pilots now, and continues to do so for a duration far beyond any credible need. If AMR needs a one or two year pilot-specific BK deal....let's talk. Beyond that threshold, AA's pilots must snap back to "market rates" - and that does not mean USAir or some other low-ball comparator, it means DAL/UAL. It also means full upside participation in the success of the reorg - not a promise to talk 6 years from now!
The 20% across the board, one size fits all, pilots are the same as all other AMR employee groups
AMR mantra is nonsense. UAL just proved it. Pilots - and pilots only - have already subsidized AMR and its employees/stakeholders over the past decade. We will not do so any longer.
Expect a lot more threats from the usual suspects. Ignore them.
-name deleted/SFO/LAX
voted NO
Displacing hundreds of pilots to LAX. Have fun commuting.
Oh what? They left the FA's based in SFO? True.
What are they currently offering the FA's?
3% pay raise
15% profit sharing
150% premium pay
FA's are paid the same regardless of what airplane they fly
Early out retirement payout of $40,000 US dollars if 15 yrs of service completed
FA's making same pay as A-319 FO's if FA is on premium pay
Here's what the former SFO base chair had to say:
Finally irrefutable proof that pilot contractual standards are not the same as, nor tied to, any other non-pilot employee contracts. UALs TA has correctly reset the bar. Before the weak-kneed scream "...but we're in BK!" - that does not mean we must or should surrender our contract for the next decade. AMR will be out of BK very soon and making money hand over fist. BK is a temporary condition requiring very temporary solutions as we move to longer term structure. The "provisions" (don't even suggest it's real language) of the proposed AA/APA TA extracts unacceptable value from pilots now, and continues to do so for a duration far beyond any credible need. If AMR needs a one or two year pilot-specific BK deal....let's talk. Beyond that threshold, AA's pilots must snap back to "market rates" - and that does not mean USAir or some other low-ball comparator, it means DAL/UAL. It also means full upside participation in the success of the reorg - not a promise to talk 6 years from now!
The 20% across the board, one size fits all, pilots are the same as all other AMR employee groups
AMR mantra is nonsense. UAL just proved it. Pilots - and pilots only - have already subsidized AMR and its employees/stakeholders over the past decade. We will not do so any longer.
Expect a lot more threats from the usual suspects. Ignore them.
-name deleted/SFO/LAX
voted NO
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