AA pilots vote to reject TA 61% NO to 31% Yes

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Quote: Keep your contract, no matter how bad you think it is.
There you have it.
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Quote: There you have it.
Not sure whether you are agreeing with Alfa or not, but time will tell who's right...
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Quote: Lol. Why don't ya just throw World peace in there too.
You mean 'Metta World Peace'?

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How many can walk away?
If the term sheet gets imposed how many AA pilots have the ability to put in their notice?

Say for example 10% decide to leave, will AMR have enough pilots to even move the planes?

TC
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Quote: If the term sheet gets imposed how many AA pilots have the ability to put in their notice?

Say for example 10% decide to leave, will AMR have enough pilots to even move the planes?

TC
No one will leave, without a pay out they will all stay. History at other carriers confirms this, besides they are going to need to furlough.
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Quote: No one will leave, without a pay out they will all stay. History at other carriers confirms this, besides they are going to need to furlough.
They are gearing up for recalls, also AMR managment numbers are worthless, they said 400 furlough as well as 2,000+ pilots needed due to the new FTDT. What is it then, you need to furlough or increase your pilot group by 25% due to rules and not taking account attrition and age 65 rule in a few months.
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Is this true?

APA Hotline, Aug 15

JUDGE SEAN LANE GRANTS AMR MANAGEMENT’S MOTION: United States Bankruptcy Judge Sean Lane issued a ruling today that grants AMR management’s application for authority to reject the Allied Pilots Association-American Airlines Collective Bargaining Agreement.

Your APA legal team is currently reviewing the document. Upon completion of our review, if appropriate we will file an appeal of Judge Lane’s decision.

We regard AMR’s intent to reject our contract as an admission of failure—failure to reach a mutually acceptable agreement with a vital employee group, and in a broader sense, failure to avoid bankruptcy and to present a credible vision for our airline’s future. Any future for this airline must include a consensual, industry-standard contract that properly recognizes our pilots’ sacrifices and our critical role in the operation of American Airlines.

Your APA leadership is exploring and pursuing all legal avenues in response to today’s ruling, including the pending appeal regarding the inapplicability of Section 1113 to the 2003 pilot collective bargaining agreement. Your APA leadership will issue a follow-up message later today.
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Quote: Is this true?

APA Hotline, Aug 15

JUDGE SEAN LANE GRANTS AMR MANAGEMENT’S MOTION: United States Bankruptcy Judge Sean Lane issued a ruling today that grants AMR management’s application for authority to reject the Allied Pilots Association-American Airlines Collective Bargaining Agreement.

Your APA legal team is currently reviewing the document. Upon completion of our review, if appropriate we will file an appeal of Judge Lane’s decision.

We regard AMR’s intent to reject our contract as an admission of failure—failure to reach a mutually acceptable agreement with a vital employee group, and in a broader sense, failure to avoid bankruptcy and to present a credible vision for our airline’s future. Any future for this airline must include a consensual, industry-standard contract that properly recognizes our pilots’ sacrifices and our critical role in the operation of American Airlines.

Your APA leadership is exploring and pursuing all legal avenues in response to today’s ruling, including the pending appeal regarding the inapplicability of Section 1113 to the 2003 pilot collective bargaining agreement. Your APA leadership will issue a follow-up message later today.
APA sent a blast this morning that stated the judge will rule this afternoon electronically, and that management will meet with APA early next week to discuss the implementation of the 1113. So it sounds like management knows how the judge will rule as of early this mornig!
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Quote: Is this true?

APA Hotline, Aug 15

JUDGE SEAN LANE GRANTS AMR MANAGEMENT’S MOTION: United States Bankruptcy Judge Sean Lane issued a ruling today that grants AMR management’s application for authority to reject the Allied Pilots Association-American Airlines Collective Bargaining Agreement.

Your APA legal team is currently reviewing the document. Upon completion of our review, if appropriate we will file an appeal of Judge Lane’s decision.

We regard AMR’s intent to reject our contract as an admission of failure—failure to reach a mutually acceptable agreement with a vital employee group, and in a broader sense, failure to avoid bankruptcy and to present a credible vision for our airline’s future. Any future for this airline must include a consensual, industry-standard contract that properly recognizes our pilots’ sacrifices and our critical role in the operation of American Airlines.

Your APA leadership is exploring and pursuing all legal avenues in response to today’s ruling, including the pending appeal regarding the inapplicability of Section 1113 to the 2003 pilot collective bargaining agreement. Your APA leadership will issue a follow-up message later today.
Great question. I looked on the APA site and all I found was this:

Judge to rule on contract late this afternoon
posted on August 15, 2012 09:06
APA INFORMATION HOTLINE
This is APA Communications Director Gregg Overman with the APA Information Hotline for Wednesday, Aug. 15.
JUDGE TO RULE ON CONTRACT LATE THIS AFTERNOON: Judge Sean Lane has yet to issue his ruling regarding the rejection of our contract. Your APA leadership has been told that the judge will electronically file his ruling late this afternoon. Management has indicated that they will meet with APA early next week in order to discuss the implementation of the 1113 term sheet.
APA Phone Watch (817-302-2395) will be manned from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. Central for the remainder of this week should you have questions or concerns.
That’s it for now. Fly safe and maintain your professionalism. Thanks for checking this hotline.
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APC225 posted it on the CAL thread... don't blame me, I am just spreading the rumor
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