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Old 08-08-2012 | 10:36 AM
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Excellent guys/girls. I think you made the best decision.


Kinda scary that 2935 still voted for though.
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Old 08-08-2012 | 10:58 AM
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Nice work!
So now what? TA 2.0 and finish voting the same time as the FA vote closes?
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Old 08-08-2012 | 11:11 AM
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Great job taking a stand AA pilots!

Thank you from the RJ FO's.

Beers on me.
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Old 08-08-2012 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by dundem
Kinda scary that 2935 still voted for though.
That's due to the weak-Richards that make up ORD and DFW. Don't lump the rest of us in with them. I think they are all curled up in the corner in a fetal position sucking their thumbs right about now.

Domicile In favor Percent Against Percent
Boston 85 37% 141 62%
Washington D.C. 76 34% 146 66%
Dallas/Fort Worth 937 51% 913 49%
Los Angeles 228 28% 590 72%
New York 301 23% 1005 77%
Miami 533 35% 1002 65%
Chicago 626 59% 439 41%
St. Louis 149 29% 364 72%
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Old 08-08-2012 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
Nice work!
So now what? TA 2.0 and finish voting the same time as the FA vote closes?
Now what? Judge rejects the contract. AA imposes the original term sheet, without the pay, scope, and BK claim improvements from the TA. Beyond that is anybody's guess. I really doubt AA will come back to the table.

Not saying this was the wrong vote ... if I were an AA-er, not sure how I would have voted. However, this is definitely the path with more questions than answers ...
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Old 08-08-2012 | 11:36 AM
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They ain't gonna impose the 1113. They know that the wheels will fall off with an 1113 and we will go the way of Eastern.

My guess is an LBFO-style agreement tweaked a little if the judge abrogates.

If he DOESN'T abrogate - we will get something better than the LBFO. To which I will continue voting NO on unless we get in the vicinity of DAL/UAL plus better scope.
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Old 08-08-2012 | 11:48 AM
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Although I admire your courage guys; however, sometimes you have to choose your battles carefully. Sometimes you have to take what you can and fight the other day. I'm sorry, but I think you just gave AMR more ammunition to weaken your troops.
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Old 08-08-2012 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jetlink
Although I admire your courage guys; however, sometimes you have to choose your battles carefully. Sometimes you have to take what you can and fight the other day. I'm sorry, but I think you just gave AMR more ammunition to weaken your troops.



Do you fly for AA? Did you read the LBFO? Do you have a United States passport? Get out of my country if you cannot fight a battle!

We read it, we understand choosing our battles carefully. We voted NO for us, and for the profession.

People like you make me sick. We the pilots of AA took a 23.5% pay cut and lost lots of work rules and benefits to keep AA out of BK then. Turns out it was BS.
AA has $6.5 B this was a BK out of convienience to gut the employee union contracts.
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Old 08-08-2012 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by What
"APA MEMBERS REJECT TENTATIVE AGREEMENT: Shortly after voting ended at noon Central Daylight Time today, Ballot Point certified the following results in the tentative agreement vote: 2,935 pilots voted for the tentative agreement, and 4,600 pilots voted against the tentative agreement. Therefore, the tentative agreement is rejected."

https://public.alliedpilots.org/apa/...agreement.aspx

I thought AA had more active pilots than that.
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Old 08-08-2012 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jetlink
Although I admire your courage guys; however, sometimes you have to choose your battles carefully. Sometimes you have to take what you can and fight the other day. I'm sorry, but I think you just gave AMR more ammunition to weaken your troops.
Who the hell are you? I really hope you work for a regional and keep working for a regional indefinitely. We don't need your type at mainline. Thank you American pilots. I don't know what's going to happen now, but I think the odds are pretty good that your future will be better than it would have been if you voted in that piece of crap.
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