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-   -   AA pilots vote to reject TA 61% NO to 31% Yes (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/american/69392-aa-pilots-vote-reject-ta-61-no-31-yes.html)

eaglefly 08-09-2012 07:00 AM
Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1242582)
They can't stop negotiating, it's a condition of the bankruptcy process and required by law. AMR management is acting improperly during this 1113(c) process, and they will lose it if they keep it up.
"Negotiating" is a loose term. They could agree to sit in a room staring at the APA and playing with their smart phones and technically be negotiating.

aa73 08-09-2012 07:18 AM
APA CA Bates just resigned. And the fun begins.

Dashdog 08-09-2012 07:32 AM
Originally Posted by Cactusone (Post 1242423)
You must be US Air east? lol Good job AA I hope it works out in the end.
Originally Posted by GW258 (Post 1242597)
Good for you AA pilots. You should be proud.

Cactusone, take your worn out crap to a new thread. You, the west, would be the last pilot group to take a stand.
I agree, don't we have enough threads of West guys calling East guys names? Besides, of all the names you can call US Airways pilots, I don't think "Limp-D*****", would be a good choice. There's plenty of erections to go around if you mention 'DOH' in PHL (or Nicolau in PHX).

hslightnin 08-09-2012 08:14 AM
Bravo!, from a hopeful prospective AA pilot.

Hawaii50 08-09-2012 08:29 AM
Originally Posted by El Gwopo (Post 1242230)
Just a quick thank you from your frendly neighborhood CAL pilot. Very nice. You guys really showed what a pilot group with a backbone looks like. You didn't cave on SCOPE like those DAL wusses. They certainly have made life miserable for our negotiations. Thanks again to APA pilots holding strong!!
Yes, coming from CO, the perennial bottom feeder of major airline contracts, I can see how our pay rates being almost 50% higher than yours made your negotiations miserable. :rolleyes:

Best of luck to the AA folks!

TEXASTONE 08-09-2012 08:30 AM
Well done my AA brothers! Fight the good fight! I hope we at Unical can vote the same way soon.

Monkeyfly 08-09-2012 09:33 AM
Thank you AA "no" voters.
There is no reason your contract should be any less than DAL or UAL.

KillingMeSmalls 08-09-2012 09:52 AM
Originally Posted by Monkeyfly (Post 1242721)
Thank you AA "no" voters.
There is no reason your contract should be any less than DAL or UAL.
To be honest they don't have the same synergies or economies of scale as their larger counterparts. DAL and UAL will always have about a 10% boost on American. APA can demand more (and rightly should) but it won't come easy.

I know pilots will hate me for saying this, but it's the truth. If American pilots demand the same pay as DAL/UAL, it puts AMR at a disadvantage.

Rather B Fishin 08-09-2012 10:31 AM
Originally Posted by El Gwopo (Post 1242230)
Just a quick thank you from your frendly neighborhood CAL pilot. Very nice. You guys really showed what a pilot group with a backbone looks like. You didn't cave on SCOPE like those DAL wusses. They certainly have made life miserable for our negotiations. Thanks again to APA pilots holding strong!!
Ahh yes, your 83' hires are the epitome of the "anti-wuss"....... :rolleyes:

Flyby1206 08-09-2012 10:36 AM
Originally Posted by aa73 (Post 1242645)
APA CA Bates just resigned. And the fun begins.
Holy crap.

What is the general reaction from the pilot group? It seemed like he did a lot of good and made progress with AA. This is a crucial time and electing a new leader is the last thing to be focusing on.


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