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Old 08-15-2012, 11:57 AM
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Not true. Just a canned press release that got leaked. He hasn't rules yet!
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I don't remember which airline's bankruptcy, but it was ruled that an 1113 abrogation was not grounds for a strike. Might be Mesaba's case. I imagine someone can enlighten.

Best of luck out there guys.
I think the NWA FAs had an abrogation and tried to strike but it was deemed illegal.
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APA INFORMATION HOTLINE*****

************************************************** ***** This is APA Communications Director Gregg Overman with the APA Information Hotline for Wednesday, August 15.
JUDGE SEAN LANE GRANTS AMR MANAGEMENT’S MOTION: United States Bankruptcy Judge Sean Lane issued a ruling today that grants AMR management’s application for authority to reject the Allied Pilots Association-American Airlines Collective Bargaining Agreement.

...Your APA legal team is currently reviewing the document. Upon completion of our review, if appropriate we will file an appeal of Judge Lane’s decision.

We regard AMR’s intent to reject our contract as an admission of failure—failure to reach a mutually acceptable agreement with a vital employee group, and in a broader sense, failure to avoid bankruptcy and to present a credible vision for our airline’s future. Any future for this airline must include a consensual, industry-standard contract that properly recognizes our pilots’ sacrifices and our critical role in the operation of American Airlines.

Your APA leadership is exploring and pursuing all legal avenues in response to today’s ruling, including the pending appeal regarding the inapplicability of Section 1113 to the 2003 pilot collective bargaining agreement. Your APA leadership will issue a follow-up message later today.
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Originally Posted by frmrdashtrash View Post
I don't remember which airline's bankruptcy, but it was ruled that an 1113 abrogation was not grounds for a strike. Might be Mesaba's case. I imagine someone can enlighten.

Best of luck out there guys.
The NW flight attendants were banned from striking after their 1113 motion. The lost all appeals to that ruling.
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Originally Posted by ERJ135 View Post
APA INFORMATION HOTLINE*****

************************************************** ***** This is APA Communications Director Gregg Overman with the APA Information Hotline for Wednesday, August 15.
JUDGE SEAN LANE GRANTS AMR MANAGEMENT’S MOTION: United States Bankruptcy Judge Sean Lane issued a ruling today that grants AMR management’s application for authority to reject the Allied Pilots Association-American Airlines Collective Bargaining Agreement.

...Your APA legal team is currently reviewing the document. Upon completion of our review, if appropriate we will file an appeal of Judge Lane’s decision.

We regard AMR’s intent to reject our contract as an admission of failure—failure to reach a mutually acceptable agreement with a vital employee group, and in a broader sense, failure to avoid bankruptcy and to present a credible vision for our airline’s future. Any future for this airline must include a consensual, industry-standard contract that properly recognizes our pilots’ sacrifices and our critical role in the operation of American Airlines.

Your APA leadership is exploring and pursuing all legal avenues in response to today’s ruling, including the pending appeal regarding the inapplicability of Section 1113 to the 2003 pilot collective bargaining agreement. Your APA leadership will issue a follow-up message later today.
Please review tye thread before posting, any questions refer to post #1. Have a great day!!!
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:54 PM
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The NW flight attendants were banned from striking after their 1113 motion. The lost all appeals to that ruling.
Yep, and had they accepted the company's first offer, they would have wound up making more money than going through the rejection process. However, this case is different. Time will tell.
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:57 PM
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Judge Lane has not ruled on the 1113 rejection of APA CBA yet. The canned response was mistakenly transmitted this morning. NO RULING YET.
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Originally Posted by aeroergosum View Post
Judge Lane has not ruled on the 1113 rejection of APA CBA yet. The canned response was mistakenly transmitted this morning. NO RULING YET.
This was posted on EL,

***Due to technical difficulties, a rough draft hotline was inadvertently transmitted to our membership in place of the hotline below. To be clear, the judge has not issued a ruling on AMR's request to reject our contract. If you received the draft hotline, please disregard and note that the correct hotline is shown below, and is also posted to alliedpilots.org.***

The hotline that was attached below is the one from 0906 ET!

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Originally Posted by What View Post
***Due to technical difficulties, a rough draft hotline was inadvertently transmitted to our membership in place of the hotline below. To be clear, the judge has not issued a ruling on AMR's request to reject our contract. If you received the draft hotline, please disregard and note that the correct hotline is shown below, and is also posted to alliedpilots.org.***

This is a major league gaffe on the part of the APA communications folks....something tells me they're in disarray over there.
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Right now on bloomberg.com

Judge refuses to reject AA pilot contract......

Hopefully that's for real

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