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Sliceback 10-25-2012 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by aa73 (Post 1282422)
Yo Slice,

So far, none of the routes announced involve any of the new aircraft. So - for the time being - it is shuffling. I do agree with you that there will be a net gain in airframes once the -300s start arriving.

*
73 ;)


The new service announced yesterday starts with two flights in April(5 777-300ER's on property), one in May(6th -300ER), and one in June(7th -300ER on property).

Six current 772 flights have been announced as upgrading to 773's. That allows those 772's to push into new markets (ICN) or replace current 763 flying which frees up 763's for other routes(DUS).

IMO we'll announce another 3-5 new w/b routes or additional frequencies in existing markets before the end of next summer due to the 10 773's we'll have by EOF2013.

Sliceback 10-25-2012 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by Mink (Post 1282670)
Has a pay rate been established for the 777-300's?

Since we have no contract the answer is no. 1113 and TA had 773 pay rates. Guessing that we'd have a TA, or failure of talks leading to the 1113 becoming our 'contract', before the 773's start line flying.

LeftWing 10-25-2012 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by aa73 (Post 1282595)
80s will stick around till around 2018, at least... still about 170 of them.
Long live the Mad Dog!

"Dog"? Perhaps. "Mad"? No way!;)

aa73 10-25-2012 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by Mink (Post 1282670)
Has a pay rate been established for the 777-300's? If not, I hope APA pilots let them collect dust.

New routes, new hiring. Rrrriiiiight. All smoke and mirrors. Please, APA pilots, don't be fooled. Stand strong, and keep ensuring those aircraft are extremely safe and well maintained, right through the holidays.

Don't worry Mink, nobody is falling for it. Even **IF** we have a slight net increase in airframes, who's to say AA won't decide to suddenly park older aircraft previously unannounced, resulting in a loss.

As far as I'm concerned, Horton timed his "cafeteria koolaid" perfectly in time for the holidays. Translation, we announce hiring and growth, pilots are injected with optimism, and the operation trucks right on through the holidays seamlessly.

Meanwhile, Nov 1 approaches... tick tock

777-300 pay rate would be in the proposed Group 5 pay rate. Nothing set in stone yet until we get a contract.

CaptainBigWood 10-26-2012 03:01 AM

Stephen Wolf used a similar phrase at USAirways. Turbo Growth, more airplanes coming than god can count. ToHo learned from the Wolf.

Imapilot2 10-26-2012 03:26 AM


Originally Posted by aa73;1282811[B
]Don't worry Mink, nobody is falling for it.[/B] Even **IF** we have a slight net increase in airframes, who's to say AA won't decide to suddenly park older aircraft previously unannounced, resulting in a loss.

As far as I'm concerned, Horton timed his "cafeteria koolaid" perfectly in time for the holidays. Translation, we announce hiring and growth, pilots are injected with optimism, and the operation trucks right on through the holidays seamlessly.

Meanwhile, Nov 1 approaches... tick tock

777-300 pay rate would be in the proposed Group 5 pay rate. Nothing set in stone yet until we get a contract.

Me and 35% of my well informed pilots at DAL thought so too. Trust me....guys are falling for it.
I'm not saying our contract at DAL is bad..... just sayin

shiznit 10-26-2012 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by Imapilot2 (Post 1282862)
Me and 35% of my ill informed pilots at DAL thought so. Trust me....guys are falling for it.
I'm not saying our contract at DAL is bad..... just sayin there is a devil in the details, DYODD.

Fyp. .

surfnski 10-26-2012 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by 121isnofun (Post 1282021)
Special Jetwire posted today...

" As part of our plans, we expect to hire at least 1,500 new flight attendants over the next year and create approximately 2,500 new and recalled pilot jobs over five years, which we think will lead to about 1,300 Captain upgrades. "

Yawn.........

CanoePilot 10-26-2012 04:28 PM

What's going on with the potential merger with us air and amr?

Rider850 10-26-2012 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by aa73 (Post 1282811)
Don't worry Mink, nobody is falling for it. Even **IF** we have a slight net increase in airframes, who's to say AA won't decide to suddenly park older aircraft previously unannounced, resulting in a loss.

As far as I'm concerned, Horton timed his "cafeteria koolaid" perfectly in time for the holidays. Translation, we announce hiring and growth, pilots are injected with optimism, and the operation trucks right on through the holidays seamlessly.

Meanwhile, Nov 1 approaches... tick tock

777-300 pay rate would be in the proposed Group 5 pay rate. Nothing set in stone yet until we get a contract.

Fixed that NOV. 1 concern today. 11%. Just enough to stop the stampede.


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