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cactiboss 02-17-2013 08:23 AM

AA procedures
 
So on another board some guys are discussing some procedures that AA uses that seem odd to me and I was wondering if it was just some web board BS.

Fo's can't start engines?

Fo's can't make pa's?

Fo's can't fly imc approaches?

Can this be correct?

aa73 02-17-2013 08:29 AM

True to a certain extent. AA is still stuck in the 1950s.

All engine starts are CAs (referring to start switches.) FO puts up the fuel levers.

PAs- AA is VERY old school. Only PA the FO makes is the gate arrival PA (totally worthless.) even "FAs Prepare for Takeoff" is made by the CA -WHILE TAXIING!

Approaches: CA must land the aircraft if visibility is less than 1/4sm or 4000RVR.

Please USAir help make some changes!

RI830 02-17-2013 08:46 AM

Old School!

Cockpit Resource Management - YouTube

eaglefly 02-17-2013 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by aa73 (Post 1354650)
True to a certain extent. AA is still stuck in the 1950s.

All engine starts are CAs (referring to start switches.) FO puts up the fuel levers.

PAs- AA is VERY old school. Only PA the FO makes is the gate arrival PA (totally worthless.) even "FAs Prepare for Takeoff" is made by the CA -WHILE TAXIING!

Approaches: CA must land the aircraft if visibility is less than 1/4sm or 4000RVR.

Please USAir help make some changes!

All true, but its 3/4 or 4000RVR. Assume that's just an accidental misstatement.

lionflyer 02-17-2013 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by RI830 (Post 1354661)

Dang!! That was Rex Cramer that got billyslapped!
CRM: Captain's Right MF!!!

cactiboss 02-17-2013 08:57 AM

Wow that makes no sense, let's hope that get's changed asap.

EV120 02-17-2013 09:03 AM

XJET is the same. Less than 3/4 or 4000 rvr is considered Low Vis, and a Monitered App must be conducted, resulting the the CA landing.

R57 relay 02-17-2013 09:14 AM

I guess a lot of that will be driven by who ends up running flight ops.

Parker did say that we would mostly use AA systems and procedures because they learned it was easier to have the small group change than the big one.

QuagmireGiggity 02-17-2013 09:17 AM

Fine with me. I'd rather not do the PA anyway. Looking forward to being FO again..lol

lolwut 02-17-2013 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1354663)
All true, but its 3/4 or 4000RVR. Assume that's just an accidental misstatement.

I don't see why thats a big deal. I mean how many times is the RVR exactly 4000 and the FO can't land?


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