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Old 02-26-2013, 10:06 AM   #1  
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I apologize if this topic has been talked about on some other threads. Iím curious from a labor standpoint about the future union at the new airline. I would imagine that a vote must been taken with all pilots asking who they want as their union, USAPA or APA? I suppose ALPA would throw their name in the hat too. Is there a campaigning time? I guess a simpler question is who takes the reins from here?
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There will be a representation election. Considering the numbers, the best bet is that APA will be the bargaining agent in the end.
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Considering that only a few members of USAPA like USAPA, the west hates USAPA, and AA pilots are APA and already much larger to begin with, it's safe to say APA will be the go ahead agent.

ALPA may try but doesn't have a snowball's chance in heck.
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considering that only a few members of usapa like usapa, the west hates usapa, and aa pilots are apa and already much larger to begin with, it's safe to say apa will be the go ahead agent.

Alpa may try but doesn't have a snowball's chance in heck.
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It appears USAPA has lots of support getting the vague MOU passed. APA had the sense to vote down the first offer. I voted no.
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Ok, thanks for the quick answer. This last question is a little more speculative. With Delta's and United's new scope (More large but less total RJs) the AA bankrupt scope was really hit that nail on the head. I guess I'm wondering if management will use that as their opening case for the JCAB scope and go from there. Doesn't seem fair for the negotiating committee to have to fight off a fresh bankrupt contract. Thoughts?
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Ok, thanks for the quick answer. This last question is a little more speculative. With Delta's and United's new scope (More large but less total RJs) the AA bankrupt scope was really hit that nail on the head. I guess I'm wondering if management will use that as their opening case for the JCAB scope and go from there. Doesn't seem fair for the negotiating committee to have to fight off a fresh bankrupt contract. Thoughts?
Look at the Green Book that is in effect right now. That's the JCBA. There may be a few changes in the next 12 months but that will be it. Scope was covered in the MOU/MTA that both sides agreed to over the last 6 weeks.
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