bikingflyer

I second that, PBS is great! Its just a software, what makes it GREAT is a good contract language to program it with....I am absolutely for PBS..with a good contract language

D B Cooper

I agree, however. Given that ALPA and Management have been pushing for a B scale at Eagle, I doubt they are all too concerned with "Good contract language."
I've also heard from friends at Eagle that the FAA is increasing scrutiny and line checks of pilots, due to poor morale and Jepp revision updates.

JamesNoBrakes

This must be the pilot shortage I've heard so much about!

cactusmike

PBS is good, and our SMEs are working with APA to ensure that the issues that we do have now will be minimized.

Also heard today that the Sept 1st new hire class in PHX has been cancelled.

MrBrosef

PBS SUCKS.... I have been a part of line bidding and PBS. I would much rather have line bidding. PBS is a win for the company not the pilot.

7576FO

Eagle Capt RJ pay 12 yr $92. hour - 18 year $104 hour

AA 4th year pay 73/S80/75/76 $96-104. hour


So you are so addicted to overtime pay at Eagle that you cannot come to AA?

Add 8% Jan 1, 2014 to AA 4th year pay.


You will work less, and enjoy work more.


I flew for Horizon Air for 9 years.


Perhaps the correct answer is: You cannot afford to stay at Eagle since the "Rob Zombie" writing is on the wall.

Good luck to you.

NC3rd

This is correct. The company can now run the pilot group more efficiently which will mean less days off and less hiring. A lot has to do with how te rules are written, but in my opinion this is no win for the pilots. Sounds the wheels are already in motion for it, so might as well focus on trying to make it the best we can.

oldcarpilot

Look to ASA's PBS. It is overwhelmingly liked there. They have a lot of input to how it's run.

bikingflyer

YUP! It's all in what you get in the language. Between the language and learning to bid properly, I was happy with what I got! I spent 80% of my time on RSV at ASA when I was employed at ASA, however I was able to turn a one week worth of vacation to 2.5-3weeks off most of the time with PBS. Do that to three weeks of vaca and that's almost 25% of yr off.

As a line holder I always wanted to work over the weekend so getting a decent line wasn't bad either....but like I said its all about language and learning to bid properly...I hope we get PBS here at US/American.

On the other note, I don't see any problem with company trying to be efficient to run a business. It's our (unions) job to get good language in the contract. I guess we will wait and see on what happens, line bidding takes too much of my off time to sort thru stuff, on the other hand tell PBS what you want and it will do as much as it can to get you almost ALMOST all of your wishes depending on your seniority. And you can xfer one month of bids to the other and tweak it. So there is no sorting thru lines every month to see what you want to bid.

That's just my point of view, you don't have to agree with it.

flybywire44

What airline did you work for that had PBS?

Either you didn't understand how to bid effectively or your union negotiated poor PBS rules.

I always got what I wanted with PBS and I was 60% seniority at ASA.