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Sliceback 01-05-2018 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by jcountry (Post 2495907)
These numbers mean squat.

The only number that matters is the one they give you when you get hired.

I’ll never understand why so many pilots try and talk other pilots out of even trying to get hired. Reminds me of a guy who used to walk around the lounge at my former employer with his list of reasons why airline X wouldn’t hire people who had too many hours, or upgraded too long ago, or blah and blah and such and so..... Literally every airline you can think of, he had some rationale for why no one was gonna get hired anywhere. We pretty much ALL got hired elsewhere.

I always tell guys to apply. Let the company say no. If you never apply the answer is guaranteed to be no.

But it’s the difference between possibility and probablilty.

Do you need a four year degree? No. Proof was UA saying they’d hired 3 out of 1800 without a four year degree. 600:1.
Should you apply? Yes.
Will you get hired? Close to zero chance right now.

Regional guys are getting hired, or were getting hired, at 11-24x times the rate 135/91 guys are/were. If the regional pilot applicant pool is 11-24x as large as the 135/91 guys applying the odds of getting hired are the same.

Add in different levels of hiring requirements at different tiers of airlines and the answer gets murkier.

Learjet75 01-05-2018 12:47 PM

Is anyone getting interview invites?

Sliceback 01-05-2018 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by Learjet75 (Post 2496438)
Is anyone getting interview invites?

Yes. Spoken with three guys recently who've gotten video or F2F invites.

kme9418 01-06-2018 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by Learjet75 (Post 2496438)
Is anyone getting interview invites?

I know of F2F interviews on Jan 10 and Jan 17th.

Learjet75 01-06-2018 05:41 PM

What are the chances of getting called with 4,000TT, 1500 TPIC, standards officer and multiple types? All part 91 and 135. What can I do to stand out more? I only applied on pilotcredentials and was wondering if there is another application to fill out like SWA?

kme9418 01-07-2018 02:24 AM


Originally Posted by Learjet75 (Post 2497335)
What are the chances of getting called with 4,000TT, 1500 TPIC, standards officer and multiple types? All part 91 and 135. What can I do to stand out more? I only applied on pilotcredentials and was wondering if there is another application to fill out like SWA?

The recent three that I know of personally: one started in Nov 2017 and two interview in January...all military (all C-5 IPs). One of them is now Part 121. There is no separate app like SWA, just pilotcredentials.

sherpster 01-07-2018 03:45 AM

Whats the current outlook for classes? 9 Jan, 23 Jan, a couple in Feb. Is that it? Any idea how big classes usually are?

Riverside 01-07-2018 03:58 AM


Originally Posted by Learjet75 (Post 2497335)
What are the chances of getting called with 4,000TT, 1500 TPIC, standards officer and multiple types? All part 91 and 135. What can I do to stand out more? I only applied on pilotcredentials and was wondering if there is another application to fill out like SWA?

Zero percent, unless you're a minority and a female.

Hubble15 01-07-2018 05:06 AM

That last comment is BS. I know several sharp new FOs who are neither female nor minority. One of them was in my indoc class a few years ago: 29 years old, and had already been at United for 9 months before leaving for AA because he loves Dallas *that* much. How'd he do it? He was sharp, positive, professional. He networked and learned everything he could about the industry and the hiring process.

The "women and minority" thing is just a fairy tale that guys like Riverside tell themselves to explain why they haven't been hired, when the real reason is their toxic attitude. I looked at the last 10 or 20 of his posts, and if I were in HR and knew his real name, I'd scratch him off the list immediately.

You want to get hired? Flood the zone, go to every contact opportunity with your target airlines, get interview prep from ECIC or FAPA (better ... from both!). And get honest feedback about your weaknesses and get to work addressing them. And don't be a glass-is-half-empty whiner.

Learjet75 01-07-2018 07:27 AM

Thanks Hubble. Yeah that’s why I mostly stay off of this crap due to people like that. Is there another application you have to fill out other than pilotcredentials? At SWA you apply at PC and SWA.careers. Just wondering if i was missing something


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