AAL Air operations lineup
12-04-2013, 06:41 AM
#41
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CA authority is a big issue right now. The trend is towards the better. It reached a low probably 10 years ago.
Justfun is correct - if the CA asks for more fuel, if he wants an insubordinate FA gone, etc, it happens. There are a few problem FA's, and there are always interesting stories making the rounds, but the CA is still the boss. It's the FA attitudes that need some modification, which is why we are happy to see them returning to Flight from Marketing.
Justfun is correct - if the CA asks for more fuel, if he wants an insubordinate FA gone, etc, it happens. There are a few problem FA's, and there are always interesting stories making the rounds, but the CA is still the boss. It's the FA attitudes that need some modification, which is why we are happy to see them returning to Flight from Marketing.
12-04-2013, 07:54 AM
#42
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I do not see a combative attitude between F/A's and pilots carrying through to a post merger airline. From what I understand, the Captain will make their call to run the aircraft, and what the Captain says, will simply be the way it is, without challenge. This will also be the case with MX personnel and Gate Agents. Allegedly, new training will include addressing the PIC as "Captain", without use of their name. Flight ops seems very intent on establishing an unchallenged chain of command, with no grey area or room for cockpit to cabin infighting. This was discussed by an informal source in newhire training.
I was impressed by what I heard, and motivated by the culture they seek to inspire here. Good stuff coming for us as a new airline, and we'll all be pulling in the same direction with solid leadership. My impression during training was that our culture will matter and play volumes in our future success, and Mgt. recognizes this.
I was impressed by what I heard, and motivated by the culture they seek to inspire here. Good stuff coming for us as a new airline, and we'll all be pulling in the same direction with solid leadership. My impression during training was that our culture will matter and play volumes in our future success, and Mgt. recognizes this.
12-04-2013, 08:13 AM
#43
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Position: B767
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Originally Posted by CamYZ125
I was only at Compass a short time while he was running the show, but it was my impression that everyone thought TC was a great leader. I, for one, was happy to see his name on the new management list.
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12-04-2013, 09:10 AM
#44
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Position: Right of the Left Seat
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Originally Posted by ForeverFO
CA authority is a big issue right now. The trend is towards the better. It reached a low probably 10 years ago.
Justfun is correct - if the CA asks for more fuel, if he wants an insubordinate FA gone, etc, it happens. There are a few problem FA's, and there are always interesting stories making the rounds, but the CA is still the boss. It's the FA attitudes that need some modification, which is why we are happy to see them returning to Flight from Marketing.
Justfun is correct - if the CA asks for more fuel, if he wants an insubordinate FA gone, etc, it happens. There are a few problem FA's, and there are always interesting stories making the rounds, but the CA is still the boss. It's the FA attitudes that need some modification, which is why we are happy to see them returning to Flight from Marketing.
Originally Posted by JumpersAway79
I do not see a combative attitude between F/A's and pilots carrying through to a post merger airline. From what I understand, the Captain will make their call to run the aircraft, and what the Captain says, will simply be the way it is, without challenge. This will also be the case with MX personnel and Gate Agents. Allegedly, new training will include addressing the PIC as "Captain", without use of their name. Flight ops seems very intent on establishing an unchallenged chain of command, with no grey area or room for cockpit to cabin infighting. This was discussed by an informal source in newhire training.
I was impressed by what I heard, and motivated by the culture they seek to inspire here. Good stuff coming for us as a new airline, and we'll all be pulling in the same direction with solid leadership. My impression during training was that our culture will matter and play volumes in our future success, and Mgt. recognizes this.
I was impressed by what I heard, and motivated by the culture they seek to inspire here. Good stuff coming for us as a new airline, and we'll all be pulling in the same direction with solid leadership. My impression during training was that our culture will matter and play volumes in our future success, and Mgt. recognizes this.
Coming from a regional it is always odd to have so many people engage you with so much respect.
I am glad Airways management did not let the 2010 work slowdown change their attitude towards PIC's like UAL did in 2005!
12-10-2013, 09:50 AM
#45
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Joined APC: Apr 2011
Position: retired 767(dl)
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I was at the dentist today, always with the airplanes. He flew AA LAS/ORD last week. They debarked the A/C and reassigned seats, with the first 10 rows of coach empty, claiming weight/balance issues. It was 3 and 3 no S-80, 737? I was unable to give him a realistic answer. Anybody?
12-10-2013, 10:33 AM
#46
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badflaps,
It was probably a very light load on a 737-800. We do not allow people in the first part of coach due to weight and balance issues on a light load. We had about 30 people one day and we had to do this.
So this is a true story.
It was probably a very light load on a 737-800. We do not allow people in the first part of coach due to weight and balance issues on a light load. We had about 30 people one day and we had to do this.
So this is a true story.
12-10-2013, 02:03 PM
#47
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Originally Posted by justfun
badflaps,
It was probably a very light load on a 737-800. We do not allow people in the first part of coach due to weight and balance issues on a light load. We had about 30 people one day and we had to do this.
So this is a true story.
It was probably a very light load on a 737-800. We do not allow people in the first part of coach due to weight and balance issues on a light load. We had about 30 people one day and we had to do this.
So this is a true story.
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