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Old 12-19-2013, 01:25 PM
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Constitutional Amendment and Recall Referendum
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The Constitutional Amendment and Recall Referendum is being conducted by electronic ballot using the telephone and Internet, through BallotPoint Election Services voting system.

Please select whether you are in favor or opposed to amending the USAPA Constitution and Bylaws per BPR AI 13-066, Division of House resolution. The BPR resolution is shown at the bottom of this email, and will be included with your election documents that will arrive in the mail. It is also available on the USAPA website here. Also, please select whether you are in favor or opposed to recalling the USAPA President and Vice President individually.
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If you can vote, shut up and go vote, now.
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Old 12-19-2013, 02:18 PM
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Thanks purple, Hummel must go.
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Thanks purple, Hummel must go.
Why does he?
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Why does he?
I haven't seen or heard one convincing argument for this. I've only seen level-headed, even leadership from Hummel in my short time here.


Wait, that's exactly why they want him gone. He's not extreme enough.

I do think it's funny that they were able to toss Bradford to the West to get at Hummel. I think it would be even funnier if the West + 3rd listers had the numbers to vote in a West president over so much apathy on the East.
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I'm voting for Hummel to stay. I'll probably vote Bradford out since this will more then likely be the only vote I get with USAPA. At least I'll be able to say I voted against the guy who helped form the most non unified union in aviation history.
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Old 12-19-2013, 03:30 PM
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Thanks purple, Hummel must go.
Why? Granted, I haven't been here long, but for years and years, the yelling, fist pounding, foot stomping, etc got us what exactly? Under Hummel, haven't we gotten the biggest raise we've ever gotten in a long time?

I'm sorry, I think we need a level-headed, calm presence going into the most important time in our careers. I don't think temper tantrums, personal vendettas and a giant union shakeup will serve us well in the months ahead.
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Spend a few minutes reading up on the issues, and you can quickly see why these jihad PHL and CLT reps want revenge. It's immature, self driven and political. They were removed from the negotiating committee because their angry emails with management were getting nowhere. They accomplished little to nothing over the past 5-6 years. More has been done in the last 12 months under Hummel under a new strategy.


Learn From The Past!

Also, if the constitutional amendment is approved, it will give PHL and CLT reps the power to completely control every vote, rendering all PHX and DCA votes mute. There's a reason why the rules are the way they are (past failures of US ALPA) and there's a reason why these crazies want all the power by reverting back to roll call voting.

It truly amazes me that these PHL/CLT guys are being this ridiculous at a crucial time like this.
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Spend a few minutes reading up on the issues, and you can quickly see why these jihad PHL and CLT reps want revenge. It's immature, self driven and political. They were removed from the negotiating committee because their angry emails with management were getting nowhere. They accomplished little to nothing over the past 5-6 years. More has been done in the last 12 months under Hummel under a new strategy.


Learn From The Past!

Also, if the constitutional amendment is approved, it will give PHL and CLT reps the power to completely control every vote, rendering all PHX and DCA votes mute. There's a reason why the rules are the way they are (past failures of US ALPA) and there's a reason why these crazies want all the power by reverting back to roll call voting.

It truly amazes me that these PHL/CLT guys are being this ridiculous at a crucial time like this.

Amen

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Spend a few minutes reading up on the issues, and you can quickly see why these jihad PHL and CLT reps want revenge. It's immature, self driven and political. They were removed from the negotiating committee because their angry emails with management were getting nowhere. They accomplished little to nothing over the past 5-6 years. More has been done in the last 12 months under Hummel under a new strategy.


Learn From The Past!

Also, if the constitutional amendment is approved, it will give PHL and CLT reps the power to completely control every vote, rendering all PHX and DCA votes mute. There's a reason why the rules are the way they are (past failures of US ALPA) and there's a reason why these crazies want all the power by reverting back to roll call voting.

It truly amazes me that these PHL/CLT guys are being this ridiculous at a crucial time like this.
Frankly who gives a FK what happens to usapa?? I want it all gone and under APA like yesterday!! FK usapa as it was built on the principles of destroying pilots and acting in a manner consistent with that of SCABS!

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Frankly who gives a FK what happens to usapa?? I want it all gone and under APA like yesterday!! FK usapa as it was built on the principles of destroying pilots and acting in a manner consistent with that of SCABS!

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We all know what you want, you post the same thing over and over.

Even if YOU want it all gone, the truth is that we will have two separate unions for many months ahead. Many crucial months ahead. We will not all be APA for a while.

Sorry to point out that you can't get your way.
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