Originally Posted by flybywire44 (Post 1604809)

This vote does not so much reflect USAPA as a problem, but that it's members are not informed.

These results mean that the representation ratio of USAPA after Single Transportation System and during Seniority Integration will fall from 1 rep to 300 pilots to 1:1100. Many US Airways pilots find it difficult getting a call or email returned these days. This may become impossible after STS.

West pilots as a block voted against having their own BPR reps continue to represent them. Look at how unsuccessful TWA's DFR was. A later DFR won't grant everything lost by giving up further representation. #livinginthepast

The four remaining officers will be much easier for APA or newAmerican to incentivize. That being said, I believe the four remaining US Airline Pilot Association officers will make the right decisions on behalf of the group.

Originally Posted by cactiboss (Post 1604876)

You really are clueless.

Originally Posted by flybywire44 (Post 1604915)

About what cactiboss?


If you could avoid insulting people you'd avoid threads like this being posted in your honor:

Originally Posted by cactiboss (Post 1604925)

First, this vote has nothing to do with representation but with usapa's dissolution, who controls usapa's money after it's decertified. Second, the west pilots are outvoted every single time 8-3, so what did we lose? Third, the west voted in a block to keep just 4 people in control so it's easier to follow the money and prosecute them if they spend one penny to attempt at representing usairways pilots.

Originally Posted by cactiboss (Post 1604925)

First, this vote has nothing to do with representation but with usapa's dissolution, who controls usapa's money after it's decertified. Second, the west pilots are outvoted every single time 8-3, so what did we lose? Third, the west voted in a block to keep just 4 people in control so it's easier to follow the money and prosecute them if they spend one penny to attempt at representing usairways pilots.

Originally Posted by flybywire44 (Post 1605055)

You are not correct. This vote determined who will continue to supervise the Merger Committee post Single Transportation System.

What did you lose? You lost your local representation.

Originally Posted by flybywire44 (Post 1604915)

About what cactiboss?


If you could avoid insulting people you'd avoid threads like this being posted in your honor:

Originally Posted by cactiboss (Post 1605109)

Usapa will be gone and control nothing. The Mou you voted on was set up for the apa to takeover:

Mou paragraph 5:
"US Airways, and is successors, if any, shall continue to recognize and treat with USAPA as representatives of the pilots employed by US Airways until another representative for the pilot craft or class is certified by the National Mediation Board (the "NMB")."

Originally Posted by PurpleTurtle (Post 1605218)

Does an MOU have more teeth than a statute. Enquiring minds want to know. :cool:

Originally Posted by R57 relay (Post 1605180)

Hey flybywire, they've got this. They have never been wrong or lost an argument, just ask them!

I hear they are pitching that hideous tie to the AA uniform committee.