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kingairip 09-02-2014 07:51 AM
Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1717633)
Listen, I don't want to hijack this thread, but honestly, don't believe everything they told you in indoc. I get that you are excited to be at Delta, I really do. And I really like the unbridled enthusiasim from the new hires. However, I see all these guys wanting their airline to be like Delta. Well, Delta ain't all that. After 20 years in the airline business, and 14 years at Delta, including 5 on furlough, I believe I've earned the right to say that.

But forget all that. I'm just a jaded senior FO who's more than happy to ensure you never buy a drink if and when we ever fly together.

Forgive the thread hijack, but to all the AA guys, don't strive for Delta parity, aim for doing better than us.
We've got 30 days of negotiations back-stopped with cost-neutral arbitration. If you expect us to leapfrog your contract in the hopes of pattern bargaining, you'll only be disappointed. I agree with you..we should exceed your contract. But, that won't happen until 2019 at the earliest.

ghilis101 09-02-2014 07:54 AM
Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1717633)
Listen, I don't want to hijack this thread, but honestly, don't believe everything they told you in indoc. I get that you are excited to be at Delta, I really do. And I really like the unbridled enthusiasim from the new hires. However, I see all these guys wanting their airline to be like Delta. Well, Delta ain't all that. After 20 years in the airline business, and 14 years at Delta, including 5 on furlough, I believe I've earned the right to say that.

But forget all that. I'm just a jaded senior FO who's more than happy to ensure you never buy a drink if and when we ever fly together.

Forgive the thread hijack, but to all the AA guys, don't strive for Delta parity, aim for doing better than us.
Well said, and very kind of you sir. I mistook you for being a DAL koolaid drinker, so I apologize for that. Im a lot like you, i like DAL but make no mistake its still a concessionary contract with major room for improvement in pay and work rules. It surprises me when I talk to a DAL pilot who thinks everything is sunshine and roses despite the fact that they still haven't come close to contract 2000. If I stay at DAL I'm prepared to roll up my sleeves along with you.

CanoePilot 09-02-2014 08:29 AM
Originally Posted by redthread (Post 1717627)
Most can't be bothered to tuck in their shirts half the time.

cubguy 09-02-2014 08:52 AM
What does all this have to do with the new American uniform.
Delta's great. Personally, I envy those that work for them.
All airlines have there problems, shortcomings and butt holes.
What's new....
CG

450knotOffice 09-02-2014 08:56 AM
Originally Posted by aa73 (Post 1717188)
Real men wear the real metal wings on the shirt... Embroidered wings are for pansies! :p

The good news is that the embroidered wings are going bye bye. For good reason, they really looked like crap.

And yes I do hope we continue to wear the wings on the shirt. It looks classy. I don't understand why you USAir guys don't wear them? you must be one of the only airlines out there that don't. Heck even at ACA we were issued "mini wings" for the shirts.

Putting them on the shirt is really an issue for some of you? C'mon guys...why even get dressed if we're gonna go there.
I couldn't agree more, man. Not only that, who stabs themselves with the wings AA gives out? Those things don't have the single clothes-pins style stabber that we all fear. They have two little dull 1/4" long threaded studs that couldn't stab a marshmallow. :rolleyes:

EMBFlyer 09-02-2014 09:09 AM
Originally Posted by 450knotOffice (Post 1717764)
I couldn't agree more, man. Not only that, who stabs themselves with the wings AA gives out? Those things don't have the single clothes-pins style stabber that we all fear. They have two little dull 1/4" long threaded studs that couldn't stab a marshmallow. :rolleyes:
ExpressJet in their infinite cheapness had very sharp pins to secure their wings. Thank you! We also have the threaded studs at US Airways.

CamYZ125 09-02-2014 10:45 AM
So is a leather jacket an option in lieu of the sub-commander double breasted thing? I'd MUCH rather wear a suit jacket over a leather jacket, as I think it looks more professional, but I'll gladly switch to leather if its a double breasted jacket.

flybywire44 09-02-2014 10:58 AM
AA/US Uniform
 
The new uniforms sound promising, but compliance may be an increased focus. Supposedly captains will be responsible for enforcing uniform compliance, which would make flight attendants more apt to report crew juice events?

Name User 09-02-2014 02:06 PM
Originally Posted by CamYZ125 (Post 1717832)
So is a leather jacket an option in lieu of the sub-commander double breasted thing? I'd MUCH rather wear a suit jacket over a leather jacket, as I think it looks more professional, but I'll gladly switch to leather if its a double breasted jacket.
Yes it will be an option. The leather jacket is actually, in its current it state, really nice.

As for how the company will implement the uniform policy, not many know and it'll be 2 years almost before we have to worry about it. Lots of things will change in 2 years.

blastoff 09-02-2014 06:36 PM
Originally Posted by EMBFlyer (Post 1717775)
ExpressJet in their infinite cheapness had very sharp pins to secure their wings. Thank you! We also have the threaded studs at US Airways.
Not only that, but the pointed edges of the wings themselves were the more likely place where you would get stabbed or a shirt ripped.

I won't mind wearing wings, just amused that some guys haven't considered the obvious benefits.


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