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Old 07-02-2014, 11:56 AM
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The latest that I'm hearing is that R.Skinner is out and will be replaced as Head of flight training at the new American. I was hoping to see a USAirways guy affect some possitive change in the training culture. I guess he ruffled some feathers along the way. Just curious if anyone has heard this also to confirm it, and what the general thoughts are.......
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Hopefully this means we get to go back to long checklists that include such things as 'Seats...adjusted, Seatbelts...on' and get rid of flows. Let's make this job harder. I'm cool with that.
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Maybe we can work in some more salutes too. Yeah, that's the ticket!
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Old 07-02-2014, 12:23 PM
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AA MD-80 checklists are ridiculous.
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Old 07-02-2014, 12:27 PM
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You guys are constantly complaining about EVERYTHING at AA. Just so you know, the fleet managers are the ones who dictate the procedures and checklists, not the training department. Training simply, uh, trains.

Fyi, the AA Airbus checklist from beginning to end is a total of ONE page (two sides if you fold it). Additionally, the cockpit philosophy is of FLOWS. Yes, even at big, bad AA (where you guys think we can do no right).

The 737 checklist is a bit longer, but most of it is the Before Start and Shutdown, none of which have anything inane like "seatbelts - on" or "seats - adjusted".

Jeez guys. Chill out about AA.
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Old 07-02-2014, 12:53 PM
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Guess who came up with your Airbus checklist.......and who came up with the MD88 checklist. Relax 450....not ripping into AA, just curious why the change and a confirmation.
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Originally Posted by JumpersAway79 View Post
The latest that I'm hearing is that R.Skinner is out and will be replaced as Head of flight training at the new American. I was hoping to see a USAirways guy affect some possitive change in the training culture. I guess he ruffled some feathers along the way. Just curious if anyone has heard this also to confirm it, and what the general thoughts are.......

He was promoted to Managing Dir of Flt at HDQ's and responsible for how Regional' s interact and train, hire and replacements.


As we work to restore American to greatness, we’re focused on several areas of the operation. One area in which we want to be industry leaders is pilot recruitment. And with the expansion of our regional family to include a larger number of wholly owned carriers, we see the relationship between the regional carriers and the mainline operation becoming increasingly important. To be the best, we want to hire and train the best, and position the mainline operation for success by coordinating efforts for pilot recruitment, hiring and training.

To help achieve this goal, Captain Bob Skinner will take on a new role, reporting directly to me, with a primary focus on creating ways to ensure that our wholly owned regional carriers continue to have the exceptional candidate pool we’ve experienced thus far. Captain Skinner will also work closely with each of our regional carriers to ensure our pilots are fully prepared to successfully transition to the new American when they are offered new hire positions.

Captain Skinner’s extensive training experience and overall passion for bringing new pilots into the industry will position American Airlines as a driving force in addressing and overcoming this industry challenge. In this new role, he will be uniquely positioned to help us maintain a steady supply of highly-skilled and customer-focused pilots.

Please join me in congratulating Bob and welcoming him to our team.
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Old 07-02-2014, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverandSore View Post
Hopefully this means we get to go back to long checklists that include such things as 'Seats...adjusted, Seatbelts...on' and get rid of flows. Let's make this job harder. I'm cool with that.
Funny, the wests checklists doubled when skinner showed up, beasties thought "flow" was their wife's special time and fought the concept almost as hard as the call sign.
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Funny, the wests checklists doubled when skinner showed up, beasties thought "flow" was their wife's special time and fought the concept almost as hard as the call sign.
Some of the West posters have been crowing about Capt Skinner being fired. I for one am happy to see he was promoted, again.

Or maybe I'm just happy to see west posters wrong, again.
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Some of the West posters have been crowing about Capt Skinner being fired. I for one am happy to see he was promoted, again.

Or maybe I'm just happy to see west posters wrong, again.
That's strange, cause a lot of the East CA I have flow with do not care for him. Guess it not just a West thing, but go ahead and make this thread an East/West battle too....and we are off.
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