Notices

MD-80

Old 07-20-2014 | 09:03 PM
  #1  
Thread Starter
Banned
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,822
Likes: 0
Default MD-80

You guys that do/have flown the 80, can you clearly see your map display w/out looking around the yoke? i.e. is the display obstructed by the yoke?
Reply
Old 07-20-2014 | 09:15 PM
  #2  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,518
Likes: 0
From: B737 CA
Default

I fly the -88 & -90 for DL but from what I can remember from jumpseating on AA, their -82s & -83s appear to be set up the same. If you have your seat at the proper height/position, the top half of the ND is pretty easily visible but it takes a bit of a peek over/around the yoke to see the bottom half.
Reply
Old 07-20-2014 | 09:26 PM
  #3  
flyinawa's Avatar
Weekend workaholic
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 669
Likes: 0
From: A320 CA
Default

The same thing happens in the airbus when you have your lunch on it.
Reply
Old 07-21-2014 | 06:27 AM
  #4  
Banned
 
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 4,378
Likes: 0
From: 7th green
Default

Yes it's obstructed. You can only see the top half. That's one of the reasons most folks fly in ARC or MAP mode.
Reply
Old 07-21-2014 | 07:01 AM
  #5  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Default

As one mad dog driver sarcastically told me once, "it's a cockpit by Remington, load a bunch of instruments in a big shotgun, BAM! Where they hit was where they stayed...."
Reply
Old 07-21-2014 | 07:05 AM
  #6  
Natca's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 579
Likes: 0
Default

Yes to see and reach everything you seat has to be pretty high. In the old school 80s with the steam gauges (the original 82) it can be a hassle to see a dme readout and the darn brake temp is almost hidden down there too.
Reply
Old 07-21-2014 | 07:23 AM
  #7  
Bucking Bar's Avatar
Can't abide NAI
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 12,078
Likes: 15
From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Default

Since the navigation information provided in the MD80 is unreliable, it isn't that big a deal that you can't see the display. Navigation in a Douglas product is an "'ish" proposition, followed by vectors. Look out the window and turn at familiar landmarks. If you have not flown that route a million times, then you are probably screwed. Thank God for ASAP and NASA reports.

Have you ever seen a four year old child pour a glass of milk? Douglas RNAV and VNAV are much the same; always hesitant and frequently it ends in something you will have to clean up.
Reply
Old 07-21-2014 | 02:56 PM
  #8  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Since the navigation information provided in the MD80 is unreliable, it isn't that big a deal that you can't see the display. Navigation in a Douglas product is an "'ish" proposition, followed by vectors. Look out the window and turn at familiar landmarks. If you have not flown that route a million times, then you are probably screwed. Thank God for ASAP and NASA reports.

Have you ever seen a four year old child pour a glass of milk? Douglas RNAV and VNAV are much the same; always hesitant and frequently it ends in something you will have to clean up.
BBar,

...and you gotta love when you're 500' AGL in IMC on the ILS and the LOC needle goes full scale left followed by full scale right deflection. Standard MD-80 pilot remark, 'just give it a sec, it'll come back...huh huh hopefully...'

-Lucky
Reply
Old 07-21-2014 | 04:41 PM
  #9  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,681
Likes: 62
Default

Hey, at least it's CAT III auto land



Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Since the navigation information provided in the MD80 is unreliable, it isn't that big a deal that you can't see the display. Navigation in a Douglas product is an "'ish" proposition, followed by vectors. Look out the window and turn at familiar landmarks. If you have not flown that route a million times, then you are probably screwed. Thank God for ASAP and NASA reports.

Have you ever seen a four year old child pour a glass of milk? Douglas RNAV and VNAV are much the same; always hesitant and frequently it ends in something you will have to clean up.
Reply
Old 07-21-2014 | 04:44 PM
  #10  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 5,299
Likes: 0
From: A320 Capt
Default

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Since the navigation information provided in the MD80 is unreliable, it isn't that big a deal that you can't see the display. Navigation in a Douglas product is an "'ish" proposition, followed by vectors. Look out the window and turn at familiar landmarks. If you have not flown that route a million times, then you are probably screwed. Thank God for ASAP and NASA reports.

Have you ever seen a four year old child pour a glass of milk? Douglas RNAV and VNAV are much the same; always hesitant and frequently it ends in something you will have to clean up.
Ah, the old TLAR method.

The MD80 has an ND? Who knew?
Reply

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Your Privacy Choices