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Diesel1030 07-27-2014 04:57 AM

JCBA
 
Starting a master thread on thoughts for the JCBA. SLI aside what improvements do we need to focus on for the group? Delta's contract is a good starting point but can be improved on. So far what we have seen from limited communication is cost neutral changes proposed.

sailingfun 07-27-2014 05:06 AM


Originally Posted by Diesel1030 (Post 1692853)
Starting a master thread on thoughts for the JCBA. SLI aside what improvements do we need to focus on for the group? Delta's contract is a good starting point but can be improved on. So far what we have seen from limited communication is cost neutral changes proposed.

I thought you agreed to a max of 40 million in changes? That kind of takes the steam out of negotiations if true.

Al Czervik 07-27-2014 06:06 AM

I hope USAPA sticks true to the email about the profit...
"This changes the dynamics of negotiations."

Metal Tube 07-27-2014 06:07 AM

100% line guarantee. Whatever you are scheduled to do, you are paid for. The only unpaid time would be if you didn't have sick time to cover an absence or you missed a part of your trip due to commuting, or you dropped a trip. If a trip cancels all or part before or after sign in, you get paid. Any reassignments would pay better of original trip or the new flying. Any extension into a day off pays 150% or a return day at straight pay, your choice, no arguments. Simplify the ability to trip trade. Make it automated and instantaneous with a 24hr window before secondary lines are created. No green or red light restrictions during this period. Then open automated trip trading again for the entire month with red and green lights.

PurpleTurtle 07-27-2014 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1692854)
I thought you agreed to a max of 40 million in changes? That kind of takes the steam out of negotiations if true.


We agreed to a mere $6k signing bonus to allow them to complete a merger that they TOLD US WOULD BE $1B IN ADDITIONAL YEARLY PROFITS.

Now that they made $1.5B in a single quarter, they are laughing their A$$e$ off.

Negotiations are over. We own the new car. We are off the lot.

sailingfun 07-27-2014 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by PurpleTurtle (Post 1692928)
We agreed to a mere $6k signing bonus to allow them to complete a merger that they TOLD US WOULD BE $1B IN ADDITIONAL YEARLY PROFITS.

Now that they made $1.5B in a single quarter, they are laughing their A$$e$ off.

Negotiations are over. We own the new car. We are off the lot.

So yes or no, is there a 40 million cap on the JCBA?

PurpleTurtle 07-27-2014 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1692965)
So yes or no, is there a 40 million cap on the JCBA?

Never mind.

Skubajet 07-27-2014 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 1692885)
I hope USAPA sticks true to the email about the profit...
"This changes the dynamics of negotiations."

This was vague. Is he saying we can get monetary improvements out of the jcba? I thought it was no cost items?

Saabs 07-27-2014 01:10 PM

I've heard that the MOU has nothing to do with the JCBA and I've heard that the JCBA and MOU will be darn near identical in cost structure . I'm lost

DrivinTheDash 07-27-2014 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1692965)
So yes or no, is there a 40 million cap on the JCBA?

No... There is no limit to the value of changes that the company and union agree to, but there is a vague limit on the value of changes that arbitrators can impose if any items go to arbitration.

"The arbitrator’s award specifically shall adhere to the economic terms of the MTA . . ."

That's the actual language in the MOU; it doesn't set a specific value, so it's up to the arbitrators, I suppose, to decide how much change would be allowed to still remain within the economic terms of the MTA.


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