There is good reason for the lack of trust between the APA and USAPA after doing some fact checking.

By Dawn Gilbertson
The Republic | azcentral.com
Sun Feb 9, 2014 9:54 AM


Sky Harbor is still nearly 2 million passengers below the record level of 42.2 million passengers set in 2007, before the recession hit.

And we merged when?

From 2007 article:This is what the vast majority of east pilots set out to do and fully supported, this is the truth. The east walked out on purpose, the east caused all the harm, period.


Full article:

Angry pilots at US Airways near vote on union ouster - ABC News

Debating these subjects here does nothing.

The power brokers will decide the core issues in short order.

Here's another little gem from 2007

Disagree, this educates those tha aren't familiar with situation, the revisionist history from the east must be countered

You wouldn't know a fact if it bit you in the rear.

Do you ever listen? I said both airlines needed the merger, but you guys think you were working for SWA or something. You weren't, we were both also rans, we both needed the merger, so one side shouldn't have been given a windfall because of it.

You picked one quarter there. How about the whole year 2004? How about the 2nd and 3rd quarter of 2005? What makes up the bulk of LUS? Which hubs are the most profitable?

Get those facts and we'll talk.

I'll get you started. From the 2004 AWA 10-K:

"In spite of these initiatives and others designed to increase revenue and productivity and reduce costs, we reported a net loss of $89.0 million in 2004 compared to net income of $57.4 million in 2003. The change in earnings was driven by a $181.1 million increase in fuel expense primarily due to a 39.1% increase in the average price per gallon of fuel. The 2003 results also included a nonoperating gain of $81.3 million related to federal government assistance recognized under the Emergency Wartime Supplemental Appropriations Act.
Capacity, as measured by available seat miles (ASMs), was up 8.1% as compared to 2003. Passenger revenues were up 3.9% to $2.2 billion for 2004 over 2003. Passenger revenue per available seat mile (RASM) fell 3.8% during 2004 to 7.29 cents versus 2003 primarily due to a 5.2% decline in yield, a 7.9% increase in aircraft utilization and a 4.7% increase in average stage length.
Total operating expenses were $2.4 billion, an increase of 6.7% from 2003. The average fuel price per gallon increased 39.1% to $1.24 during 2004. This, along with increased fuel burn due to increased flying during 2004, resulted in a 48.1% increase in fuel expenses in 2004 over 2003. In spite of the enormous increase in the cost of fuel, stringent cost controls enabled us to decrease unit costs by 1.3% during 2004 to 7.89 cents.
In spite of our diligent work to contain our costs, we believe revenues will continue to reflect the excess capacity that exists across the domestic system and fuel prices will remain at, or exceed, record highs. Given these conditions, we anticipate significant losses for full year 2005."

You and cacti are so cute! Come on, fess up, you're twins right? Too bad the IQ got split with the egg.

See the questions I posed to cacti. You are free to answer.

Here's another one for you. Would you like the same standards Nic applied to us applied to you. I mean, you guys were in chp11. Most of the airline world said that your management team was doing a lousy job and that their plan was doomed to fail. This merger is magically producing great numbers right after the closing, just like US/AW. Dang, imagine that. Should LUS pilots get extra credit for that? Let me help you-NO.

"windfall" is your opinion, as party to this you don't have an impartial bone in your body. A neutral process with and independant arbitrator, which the east picked btw, was used to arrive at the Nicolau, it wasn't imposed on one side by the other. Care to compare that with usapa's process? Btw, what does it matter about 2003 and 2004? You miss the part where Bradford goal was to indefinitely stop negotiations? That alone is outrageous behavior.