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crzipilot 09-25-2014 07:38 AM

1 vs how many? Not to mention the great recruiting video some people have drug up.....classic...

Dolphinflyer 09-25-2014 07:46 AM

I know of one that came over from Reno who isn't a member after being vetted. He was former EAL and his title was earned.

Don't know how they would handle things with others today, especially former Kangaroo boxers.

kingairip 09-25-2014 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by cactus320 (Post 1734204)
And if you look closely at that list you will see USAPA's very own Communications Chairman. CAL 83

Is that really the same guy?? If so, that is very disappointing. How was THAT allowed to happen?!

cactiboss 09-25-2014 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by kingairip (Post 1734313)
Is that really the same guy?? If so, that is very disappointing. How was THAT allowed to happen?!

They are union busters, how could it not?

EMBFlyer 09-25-2014 11:34 AM

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Frisco727 09-25-2014 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by cactus320 (Post 1734204)
And if you look closely at that list you will see USAPA's very own Communications Chairman. CAL 83

Are you sure it's the same guy? He appears to have a common name.

James Ray

Spokesperson,

US Airline Pilots Association

Any relation to?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Arthur_Ray

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Earl_Ray

http://articles.latimes.com/1988-12-09/news/mn-1258_1_james-ray

cactus320 09-25-2014 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by Frisco727 (Post 1734407)

Yup, 100% positive. Cleary even wrote a letter to the USAPA membership a few years back absolving him and claiming he never flew a revenue flight so he wasn't truly a SCAB. He told Cleary that he only went to the CAL interview for practice.

Funny, you don't get an aircraft and employee number when you show up for a practice interview. The DOB's match and strikers at CAL have confirmed his name.

Steve Crimi - the former CLT Rep was a Freedom A lister. His excuse was that he went to Mesa just to cost them a type rating in the CRJ and then quit. This is also documented. But since he didn't cross a picket line he's not a SCAB, just a scumbag willing to take jobs from his fellow aviators at a lower cost.

cactus320 09-25-2014 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by crzipilot (Post 1734223)
1 vs how many? Not to mention the great recruiting video some people have drug up.....classic...

I'm not absolving any, but for years the East has claimed they are scab free. Having one in such a high position in the union should be an embarrassment, but instead your focus has always been on the West because the East is perfect in your eyes.

EMBFlyer 09-25-2014 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by cactus320 (Post 1734431)
I'm not absolving any, but for years the East has claimed they are scab free. Having one in such a high position in the union should be an embarrassment, but instead your focus has always been on the West because the East is perfect in your eyes.

I think what he's saying is those in glass houses...

crzipilot 09-25-2014 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by cactus320 (Post 1734431)
I'm not absolving any, but for years the East has claimed they are scab free. Having one in such a high position in the union should be an embarrassment, but instead your focus has always been on the West because the East is perfect in your eyes.


My eyes? Hardly...


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