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Rabid Seagull 09-07-2014 07:44 AM

Travel transition to AA Rules?
 
Does any one know when the transition to AA rules regarding non-rev/ jumpseats will be?

Right now with USAir walking up and listing for a domestic flight (OAL) can be done in 5 minutes.

USAir international jumpseat is a painless process, and unlimited too.

Looking forward to the combined AA, domestic jumpseat needs to be listed on MyIDTravel and international jumpseat is limited to actual number of jumpseats on A/C?

Looking to international jumpseat on the USAir side in September and doing some planning. Thanks in advance.


p.s. Thanks to the USAir folks for painless jumpseat rides I've taken for the last decade+

PSUPilot 09-07-2014 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by Rabid Seagull (Post 1721780)
Does any one know when the transition to AA rules regarding non-rev/ jumpseats will be?

Right now with USAir walking up and listing for a domestic flight (OAL) can be done in 5 minutes.

USAir international jumpseat is a painless process, and unlimited too.

Looking forward to the combined AA, domestic jumpseat needs to be listed on MyIDTravel and international jumpseat is limited to actual number of jumpseats on A/C?

Looking to international jumpseat on the USAir side in September and doing some planning. Thanks in advance.


p.s. Thanks to the USAir folks for painless jumpseat rides I've taken for the last decade+

Our Jumpseat program isn't changing as of now. Rumor is the US Airways way of doing things will prevail for the Jumpseat...or perhaps a hybrid.

Non-rev wise, however, will go to AA's first come-first served this week, on September 10, followed by access to each other's travel planner on September 15.

Your Jumpseat plans should be ok though!

Night Hawk 6 09-07-2014 10:27 AM

September 10 will also be the day they implement the new Non-rev categories to include down grading retirees to a status below active employees. Another screw job for the retirees. Yes, as a twenty year commuter I know all the complaints about commuters being bumped by those who have "all day" to get to their destination, etc. however think of this, you will all be retirees, and it will come sooner than you think. With the advances in our ageing process we will be living longer and there is a good chance you may be a retiree for many more years than you were an active employee. While it won't happen now, what they should have done is created a category for commuting TO work, placing this status above D2 and keeping D2 as it has always been, first come first served for active and retired employees. Fire away ye youngsters, your retirement day will be here in a flash.

kingairip 09-07-2014 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by Night Hawk 6 (Post 1721875)
September 10 will also be the day they implement the new Non-rev categories to include down grading retirees to a status below active employees. Another screw job for the retirees. Yes, as a twenty year commuter I know all the complaints about commuters being bumped by those who have "all day" to get to their destination, etc. however think of this, you will all be retirees, and it will come sooner than you think. With the advances in our ageing process we will be living longer and there is a good chance you may be a retiree for many more years than you were an active employee. While it won't happen now, what they should have done is created a category for commuting TO work, placing this status above D2 and keeping D2 as it has always been, first come first served for active and retired employees. Fire away ye youngsters, your retirement day will be here in a flash.

No other legacy airline had retirees in the same category as active employees. Indeed, even the military "space A" priority has retirees behind active employees. To me (and this is just my humble opinion), the idea that retirees would have the same priority as active employees is ludicrous.

othello 09-07-2014 11:12 AM

Change is happening. Just trying to catch Old American up to the rest of the industry. & just because you've always done it that way doesn't mean it's right. If there was any precedents other than that's just the way we have always done it you might have an argument

Dolphinflyer 09-07-2014 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by Night Hawk 6 (Post 1721875)
is a good chance you may be a retiree for many more years than you were an active employee.

I don't have the reference available but I believe it was stated that there are, or will be in the near future, more retirees than active employees. You covered a good reason for that above.

As for a special class for commuters? Totally disagree except for cases where bases have been closed or forced displacements. Even then there should be a time limit.

Al Czervik 09-07-2014 12:16 PM

For the love of god... Keep the US Jumpseat system!!!!!

blastoff 09-07-2014 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by Night Hawk 6 (Post 1721875)
September 10 will also be the day they implement the new Non-rev categories to include down grading retirees to a status below active employees. Another screw job for the retirees. Yes, as a twenty year commuter I know all the complaints about commuters being bumped by those who have "all day" to get to their destination, etc. however think of this, you will all be retirees, and it will come sooner than you think. With the advances in our ageing process we will be living longer and there is a good chance you may be a retiree for many more years than you were an active employee. While it won't happen now, what they should have done is created a category for commuting TO work, placing this status above D2 and keeping D2 as it has always been, first come first served for active and retired employees. Fire away ye youngsters, your retirement day will be here in a flash.

Not one ounce of sense in that entire rant. You don't make the donuts anymore, get behind those that do.

EMBFlyer 09-07-2014 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by Night Hawk 6 (Post 1721875)
September 10 will also be the day they implement the new Non-rev categories to include down grading retirees to a status below active employees. Another screw job for the retirees. Yes, as a twenty year commuter I know all the complaints about commuters being bumped by those who have "all day" to get to their destination, etc. however think of this, you will all be retirees, and it will come sooner than you think. With the advances in our ageing process we will be living longer and there is a good chance you may be a retiree for many more years than you were an active employee. While it won't happen now, what they should have done is created a category for commuting TO work, placing this status above D2 and keeping D2 as it has always been, first come first served for active and retired employees. Fire away ye youngsters, your retirement day will be here in a flash.

Just curious, how close to retirement are you?

Dolphinflyer 09-07-2014 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 1721942)
For the love of god... Keep the US Jumpseat system!!!!!

It would have a good chance of surviving if seniority was a factor when non-reving in the cabin. Since it is going to FCFS, I don't see a FCFS reservation system surviving for the jumpseat and completely eliminating seniority for the jumpseat and cabin.


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