Yes. The USAir 1998 contract was way better than what we have now, fifteen years later, even without adjusting for the horrific inflation since then.

i only have a partial dog in this fight but giving up more scope seems foolish

but if you're going to do it at least try to limit them to making sure that what ever is lost from current scope is given only to the wholly-owneds instead of the bottom dollar contract carriers that fly in competition to aag as well...

Agreed. I dont like the fact that Kirby, being the snot nose punk he is, could potentially play us for fools.
1.5 billion a quarter and he feels we should give concessions?
Of course they cant find a market for the 319's, they have 50 seaters running hourly flights into those markets, instead of 4/5 daily mainline 319's.

I doubt it. Seems if it goes to arbitration, the items already addressed by the MOU will stick around unchanged which includes a scope refinement. I almost don't see a reason for the company to negotiate in good faith, knowing that after 30 days it goes to an arbitrator.

Why only partial? Even if you are a new hire in training, you have the biggest dog in the fight. Or are you at one of the wholly ownes? Coming from one my self a while back, I understand and agree with your thoughts.
However, the wholly owns need to be on the same page. This crap where the company is transferring the Envoy planes to PSA should never happen. What is PSA becoming...the "Mesa" of the wholly-owns?

yeah i'm at a WO, and i agree what aag is doing to/with us is crap, but unfortunately its the nature of the beast...

most of us would have preferred that anything bigger than 50 had stayed at mainline, but corporate greed knows no bounds

unfortunately aag (and us in the past) make sure we aren't on the same page and are incapable of being so with the history we've all had, psa has frequently been a 'buckler' or backstabber, its a ****ty business...

Anyone read the press releases on the f/a TA. The one where APFA. Is quoted about Parker not being able to pay network wages at a smaller carrier. And in her eyes. He stepped up to the plate and has done so?! Now of course this could be all the back slapping at coming to a TA. So both sides have to look good, But maybe there is hope a dog has changed his ways?

Speaking of the 321. I had two or three US 75/76 guys telling me that the company is working to get new A321 certified to fly transatlantic to Ireland and Scotland. Any truth to this? Or are they just smoking some really good we... I mean tobacco!

Delta is getting the latest non NEO versions of the 321. It is not usable in the winter for transcons unless restricted to about 120 pax. That's a 2150 mile trip. PHL to SNN is 2700 miles plus and you have to carry extra fuel on international ops. Not going to happen.

AA flies 321 transcon's with 106 seats (I think) and it seems to do OK. It certainly won't replace the 757 on SA terrain destinations, that's for sure. I hear it flies like a heavily loaded Cherokee Six with the higher U seating capacities.